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30" Monitor Jude Alexander 04-26-2007
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Posted by Edgar on May 1, 2007, 4:55 pm

>
>>> >> Does anybody have a 30" Monitor to do their CAD work and what is your
>>> >> level of satisfaction?
>>
>>> > I don't. If that's all you care about, you can stop reading here.
>>
>>> I'm not sure what you mean "if that all you care about."
>>
>> "Do you have a 30" monitor?" "No."
>>
>> Everything there after addressed _not_ a 30" monitor. If you only care
>> about 30" monitors then prattling on about 17" monitors would be of
>> you use to you.
>>
>> And some people will actually whine if you try to help beyond their
>> specific perceived cares. So I try to pre-empt them. The lurkers still
>> might learn something.
>>
>>> Well, we obviously don't agree on what's adequate. I'll say that it
>>> WORKABLE. One can do the work but it is far from the best experience.
>>
>> Obviously. I think "adequate" means "adequate" and "best experience"
>> doesn't. You appear to conflate the terms.
>
> Well, I'm actually typing with my 30" Dell Monitor right now. I thought I
> may have problems with the resolution but with all the control Windows
> gives you in font and type size, I've managed to correct the "tight"
> resolution in order to avoid "pixilation" (or however it's speleed). I've
> also started a new project and it's totally awesome. I'm able to read
> door and window schedules and look over at the drawing and see the door
> and window marks. I can actually proofread like that without zooming in
> and in and then out and out in one area to proofread in another part of
> the drawing when I had to zoom in and in and then out and out again. With
> many functions, I only have to zoom in once. AutoCAD also allows large
> icons and with all the icons to the left and right of the drawing (vs
> above) I get the maximum size of the drawing to the extends.
>
> But the way, I didn't "conflate" the terminology, jerk. Oh, and bye bye
> now. I'm having an AWESOME AUTOCAD EXPERIENCE! If you want to spend
> $1,400, you too overcome having an ADEQUATE experience and experience
> AutoCAD like it should be experienced..
>

AutoCAD should be experienced with as few icons as possible, more-so because
you have a 30" monitor and having to mouse back and forth for those icons
would be a huge pain in the butt. Learn shortcuts and you'll have an even
MORE AWESOME AUTOCAD EXPERIENCE, with even more real estate used for the
actual drawing.

I can hear Don already...
--
Edgar



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Posted by Jude Alexander on May 1, 2007, 9:00 pm

>
>>
>>>> >> Does anybody have a 30" Monitor to do their CAD work and what is
>>>> >> your
>>>> >> level of satisfaction?
>>>
>>>> > I don't. If that's all you care about, you can stop reading here.
>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what you mean "if that all you care about."
>>>
>>> "Do you have a 30" monitor?" "No."
>>>
>>> Everything there after addressed _not_ a 30" monitor. If you only care
>>> about 30" monitors then prattling on about 17" monitors would be of
>>> you use to you.
>>>
>>> And some people will actually whine if you try to help beyond their
>>> specific perceived cares. So I try to pre-empt them. The lurkers still
>>> might learn something.
>>>
>>>> Well, we obviously don't agree on what's adequate. I'll say that it
>>>> WORKABLE. One can do the work but it is far from the best experience.
>>>
>>> Obviously. I think "adequate" means "adequate" and "best experience"
>>> doesn't. You appear to conflate the terms.
>>
>> Well, I'm actually typing with my 30" Dell Monitor right now. I thought
>> I may have problems with the resolution but with all the control Windows
>> gives you in font and type size, I've managed to correct the "tight"
>> resolution in order to avoid "pixilation" (or however it's speleed). I've
>> also started a new project and it's totally awesome. I'm able to read
>> door and window schedules and look over at the drawing and see the door
>> and window marks. I can actually proofread like that without zooming in
>> and in and then out and out in one area to proofread in another part of
>> the drawing when I had to zoom in and in and then out and out again.
>> With many functions, I only have to zoom in once. AutoCAD also allows
>> large icons and with all the icons to the left and right of the drawing
>> (vs above) I get the maximum size of the drawing to the extends.
>>
>> But the way, I didn't "conflate" the terminology, jerk. Oh, and bye bye
>> now. I'm having an AWESOME AUTOCAD EXPERIENCE! If you want to spend
>> $1,400, you too overcome having an ADEQUATE experience and experience
>> AutoCAD like it should be experienced..
>>
>
> AutoCAD should be experienced with as few icons as possible, more-so
> because you have a 30" monitor and having to mouse back and forth for
> those icons would be a huge pain in the butt. Learn shortcuts and you'll
> have an even MORE AWESOME AUTOCAD EXPERIENCE, with even more real estate
> used for the actual drawing.
>
> I can hear Don already...
> --
> Edgar

I'm already used to that but I'm moving the mouse, obviously, a bit more
than usual. Even though I learned with commands only with only a small
reliance on the tablet, I now personally perfer icons, mouse and pull downs.
One other thing I noticed was that I'm moving my head more! lol Actually,
I'm taking your advice since I'm using more shortcuts than I did before
getting my new computer and monitor. Also, to rid myself of the icons would
only give me, perhaps, 1/2" more of drawing at the top with nothing on the
sides. When I have my drawings to the extends, it has a lot of space left
to right of drawing. That is why is all but zoom icons to the left & right
of the screen. Later.




Posted by gruhn on May 2, 2007, 12:26 am
> One other thing I noticed was that I'm moving my head more!

Does it drive you nuts or are you getting used to it? I got used to it
moving to the 21, but haven't gotten used to it with dual-head and
worry that I may never. Maybe a better arrangement. Or a 30" ;-)

> That is why is all but zoom icons to the left & right of the screen

Seems a good plan.


Posted by Jude Alexander on May 2, 2007, 8:51 am

>> One other thing I noticed was that I'm moving my head more!
>
> Does it drive you nuts or are you getting used to it? I got used to it
> moving to the 21, but haven't gotten used to it with dual-head and
> worry that I may never. Maybe a better arrangement. Or a 30" ;-)
>
>> That is why is all but zoom icons to the left & right of the screen
>
> Seems a good plan.

I'm not used to it yet but I gather that I will be eventually. Everything
new requires adaptation... obviously... It all worked out okay even though I
had some reservations, given what some people told me. I even view the
internet @ 150% which is near perfect for 30" monitor. I just had to change
a setting to have it at that percentage all the time. The whole success
really depended on Windows,. Explorer & AutoCAD giving you the power over
the size of icons & text. Later.
>



Posted by Michael Bulatovich on May 2, 2007, 8:14 am

> I'm already used to that but I'm moving the mouse, obviously, a bit more
> than usual. Even though I learned with commands only with only a small
> reliance on the tablet, I now personally perfer icons, mouse and pull
> downs. One other thing I noticed was that I'm moving my head more! lol
> Actually, I'm taking your advice since I'm using more shortcuts than I did
> before getting my new computer and monitor. Also, to rid myself of the
> icons would only give me, perhaps, 1/2" more of drawing at the top with
> nothing on the sides

The screen area is one thing, but the real benefit of using aliases is that
the cursor can stay near the work (SPEED). One keystroke with your other
hand, right-click enter, and you're right there. That's the fastest way to
work. Buttons/menus are fine for infrequently used stuff. Custom buttons are
great for scripts or complex command sequences, but for simple commands,
your top 50 should be via command alias, IMHO.
--


MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca



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