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Amber Room Michael Bulatovich 01-29-2008
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Posted by Kris Krieger on January 31, 2008, 7:35 pm

>
>> Michael Bulatovich wrote:
>>> Never heard of it before. Link to video:
>>> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/01/080125-amber-video-vi
>>> n.html
>>
>> Perhaps along similar lines of 'the medium is the message', that room
>> is its contents. :)
>
> Unless there is some cultural connotation to the material, I don't
> understand the point of it, from the pictures at least. Maybe it's the
> visual 'depth', the way it worked with candle light. I dunno.
>
>

THe Amber Room? It's just that the royalty collect more tax money than
they had sense, and spent it on ostentious displays. Amber used to be
considered a precious material, and IIRC, wasn't that more true of th
Slavic nations than th European...? I can't recell corrctly... Anyway,
they used to cover walls with velvet, silk, and gold, so why not amber?

OTOH, for all I know, they put up silk curtans in it and did weird things
with static electricoty, who knows...

Posted by Michael Bulatovich on January 31, 2008, 8:57 pm

>
>>
>>> Michael Bulatovich wrote:
>>>> Never heard of it before. Link to video:
>>>> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/01/080125-amber-video-vi
>>>> n.html
>>>
>>> Perhaps along similar lines of 'the medium is the message', that room
>>> is its contents. :)
>>
>> Unless there is some cultural connotation to the material, I don't
>> understand the point of it, from the pictures at least. Maybe it's the
>> visual 'depth', the way it worked with candle light. I dunno.
>>
>>
>
> THe Amber Room? It's just that the royalty collect more tax money than
> they had sense, and spent it on ostentious displays. Amber used to be
> considered a precious material, and IIRC, wasn't that more true of th
> Slavic nations than th European...?

I'll take your word for it. That makes it the usual "my branch is higher
than your branch" monkey business.



Posted by Kris Krieger on February 5, 2008, 3:53 pm

>
>>
>>>
>>>> Michael Bulatovich wrote:
>>>>> Never heard of it before. Link to video:
>>>>> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/01/080125-amber-video-vi
>>>>> n.html
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps along similar lines of 'the medium is the message', that room
>>>> is its contents. :)
>>>
>>> Unless there is some cultural connotation to the material, I don't
>>> understand the point of it, from the pictures at least. Maybe it's the
>>> visual 'depth', the way it worked with candle light. I dunno.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> THe Amber Room? It's just that the royalty collect more tax money than
>> they had sense, and spent it on ostentious displays. Amber used to be
>> considered a precious material, and IIRC, wasn't that more true of th
>> Slavic nations than th European...?
>
> I'll take your word for it. That makes it the usual "my branch is higher
> than your branch" monkey business.

And given not only the history of monarchies in general,a nd the history of
the Russian monarchy specifically, this sort of obscene level of opulance
is a surprise...?



Posted by Michael Bulatovich on February 5, 2008, 4:33 pm

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Michael Bulatovich wrote:
>>>>>> Never heard of it before. Link to video:
>>>>>> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/01/080125-amber-video-vi
>>>>>> n.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps along similar lines of 'the medium is the message', that room
>>>>> is its contents. :)
>>>>
>>>> Unless there is some cultural connotation to the material, I don't
>>>> understand the point of it, from the pictures at least. Maybe it's the
>>>> visual 'depth', the way it worked with candle light. I dunno.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> THe Amber Room? It's just that the royalty collect more tax money than
>>> they had sense, and spent it on ostentious displays. Amber used to be
>>> considered a precious material, and IIRC, wasn't that more true of th
>>> Slavic nations than th European...?
>>
>> I'll take your word for it. That makes it the usual "my branch is higher
>> than your branch" monkey business.
>
> And given not only the history of monarchies in general,a nd the history
> of
> the Russian monarchy specifically, this sort of obscene level of opulance
> is a surprise...?

Neither that, not the ensuing revolution and royal assassinations. Not to me
anyway.



Posted by Dezignaré on February 1, 2008, 8:14 am
W
>
>>
>>>
>>>> Michael Bulatovich wrote:
>>>>> Never heard of it before. Link to video:
>>>>> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/01/080125-amber-video-vi
>>>>> n.html
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps along similar lines of 'the medium is the message', that room
>>>> is its contents. :)
>>>
>>> Unless there is some cultural connotation to the material, I don't
>>> understand the point of it, from the pictures at least. Maybe it's the
>>> visual 'depth', the way it worked with candle light. I dunno.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> THe Amber Room? It's just that the royalty collect more tax money than
>> they had sense, and spent it on ostentious displays. Amber used to be
>> considered a precious material, and IIRC, wasn't that more true of th
>> Slavic nations than th European...? I can't recell corrctly... Anyway,
>> they used to cover walls with velvet, silk, and gold, so why not amber?
>>
>> OTOH, for all I know, they put up silk curtans in it and did weird things
>> with static electricoty, who knows...
>
> I think it was originally a gift from one country to another, much like
> the statue of liberty.
> Wouldn't it be just dandy to give a distant friend a very expensive gift
> purchased with stolen money?
>
Wow! Its like being on the inside of a gilded box. It is a wonder anyone
would want to be surrounded by so much, although as a ballroom it would
provide quite a setting for a party! Don't you think amber would offer a
special luster to the room, not achieved in any other way, which would not
come across in the photographs? The nature of amber is different than other
stones and would provide a unique effect, especially in conjunction with the
exhaustive elaborate gilded carvings. It's not like one could/would encrust
a room in diamonds, so it seems the amber provided a more feasible
alternative. The detail is so elaborate and similar to mosaic patterns,
therefore taken from a distance some details are lost. Being in the room
could be quite a different experience.

This is a perfect example of what could be saved, for us and for future
generations, in a virtual reality world, because after all, in a virtual
world you can spend anything you want. :)





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