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Architecture summer "camp"? Terry 05-11-2008
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Posted by ++ on May 12, 2008, 1:32 pm


Terry wrote:

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>>>Hello all,
>>>
>>>My daughter (junior in HS) wants to be an architect---or thinks she
>>>does.... There are several universities that offer brief summer
>>>programs in architecture for high school students. Anyone have any
>>>experience with 'em and can comment on their utility?
>>>
>>>Best -- Terry
>>>
>>>
>>Where are you? Here in Boston I recommend the BAC summer high school
>>program.
>>EDS
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>Western Kentucky. Right now we're looking at the programs at Ball
>State (Muncie IN), also in Mississippi and Wisconsin. Boston might be
>a bit much for a young lady who has little experience outside a town
>of about 14,000 pop.
>
>Thanks -- Terry
>
>

Dear Terry,

The majority of the people writing on this newsgroup don't have
architecture degrees. Is there a computer assisted drafting course your
daughter could take? Could she get a part time job in an architecture
or engineering firm?

Nothing wrong with sending a small town gork to Cambrige for a summer
program designed for people her age. Before he was Supreme Court
Justice, Judge Breyer used to bike to work daily from Cambridge to
downtown Boston. Should give you a concept. Most of Cambridge is
walkable and doesn't require a world class course in street smarts.
Other parts of Boston aren't much worse.


Posted by RicodJour on May 12, 2008, 2:22 pm
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> The majority of the people writing on this newsgroup don't have
> architecture degrees.

Please note that the newsgroup is alt.architecture, not
alt.architects, alt.AIA.architects, etc. Newsgroups bring people
together that share a common interest. Architecture is not just for
architects, nor is it created solely by architects.

So, that being said - what is your point about architecture degrees
and this newsgroup?

> Is there a computer assisted drafting course your
> daughter could take?

I would imagine that would be one of the surest ways to kill someone's
fledgling interest. Staring at a monitor for the summer is hardly a
way to stoke someone's interest. Architecture is not designs on paper
or monitor. It is the built form. If it doesn't get built the design
is just art - kind of lame art, but art.

The best architects/designers understand how things are built. The
easiest and most interesting way to learn how things are built is to
watch them being built and participating in the building. That's why
I recommended Yestermorrow to the OP.

> Could she get a part time job in an architecture
> or engineering firm?

For the summer? Doing what - folding plans and running off copies?

> Nothing wrong with sending a small town gork to Cambrige for a summer
> program designed for people her age.

A gork?! Before you trot out a word that's incredibly offensive,
first find out what it means.

> Before he was Supreme Court
> Justice, Judge Breyer used to bike to work daily from Cambridge to
> downtown Boston. Should give you a concept. Most of Cambridge is
> walkable and doesn't require a world class course in street smarts.
> Other parts of Boston aren't much worse.

I agree with this part.

R

Posted by ++ on May 12, 2008, 2:45 pm


RicodJour wrote:

>
>
>>The majority of the people writing on this newsgroup don't have
>>architecture degrees.
>>
>>
>
>Please note that the newsgroup is alt.architecture, not
>alt.architects, alt.AIA.architects, etc. Newsgroups bring people
>together that share a common interest. Architecture is not just for
>architects, nor is it created solely by architects.
>
>

NSS. Why am I being patronized, by the way?

>So, that being said - what is your point about architecture degrees
>and this newsgroup?
>
>

I was thinking more on the line that a father wanted the professional
opinion of people in a trade about a trades exploration program for high
school students.

>
>
>>Is there a computer assisted drafting course your
>>daughter could take?
>>
>>
>
>I would imagine that would be one of the surest ways to kill someone's
>fledgling interest. Staring at a monitor for the summer is hardly a
>way to stoke someone's interest. Architecture is not designs on paper
>or monitor. It is the built form. If it doesn't get built the design
>is just art - kind of lame art, but art.
>
>
All of that is important. It also helps to understand how to put 3 D on
2 D.

>The best architects/designers understand how things are built. The
>easiest and most interesting way to learn how things are built is to
>watch them being built and participating in the building.
>

That is also an important part. Perhaps we should ask Dad why daughter
is interested in architecture to begin with?

> That's why
>I recommended Yestermorrow to the OP.
>
>


>
>
>>Could she get a part time job in an architecture
>>or engineering firm?
>>
>>
>
>For the summer? Doing what - folding plans and running off copies?
>
>

Any exposure is good. And once she knew how to draft, she could be a
participant.

>
>
>>Nothing wrong with sending a small town gork to Cambrige for a summer
>>program designed for people her age.
>>
>>
>
>A gork?! Before you trot out a word that's incredibly offensive,
>first find out what it means.
>
>

It was a typo, obviously. I meant to type girl and didn't typocheck.
Actually, at his daughter's age, I usually use "young lady"


>
>
>>Before he was Supreme Court
>>Justice, Judge Breyer used to bike to work daily from Cambridge to
>>downtown Boston. Should give you a concept. Most of Cambridge is
>>walkable and doesn't require a world class course in street smarts.
>>Other parts of Boston aren't much worse.
>>
>>
>
>I agree with this part.
>
>R
>
>
>


Posted by David Brioso on May 12, 2008, 3:23 pm
Hello all,

Thankfully I don't have to respond directly to each of your comments
or points to make one.

I will just add my experience as an example;

My summers during high school (between sophmore/junior and junior/
senior years) were spent @ Tuft University's Summer Study.
I knew I wanted to be an architect then, even applied to Wentworth and
others in that pursuit. But the experience of living on campus
and taking college like course meant more to me than building models
or creating drawings (however the format). Fortunately the second
summer there I got to partake in their creative writing and
Architectural technnology courses. Both advantageous to my academic
endeavors.

Did I end up going to Tufts? No
Did I end up going to Wentworth? No
Did I also look into the Yestermorrow School? Yes
But I landed @ the BAC. Whose campus includes 3 buildings and a
limited core faculty/staff.

So, if you and your daughter want a place for her architectural
education you may want to start locally/at home.

Try these schools for there programs-
Western Kentucky University - Bowling Green
Lexington Community College
Spencerian College - Lexington
Louisville Technical Institute

Also should she/you be interested in seeing what the curriculum,
courses , etc. surrounding this sort of education from your own
comuputer without so much travel or investment look into the
following.

http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Architecture/4-101Experiencing-Architecture-StudioSpring2003/CourseHome/index.htm

I would also recommend the BAC summer high school program if you have
friends, family, or a trusting sponsor in this city....otherwise,
reconsider. I am a native Cantabrian (born in Cambridge, went to high
school in Waltham, and live in 'wonderful' Dorchester) should you need
real advice about the area in due time feel free to ask.

Good luck to you and your aspiring scholar.

David




Posted by Bobk207 on May 12, 2008, 7:57 pm
> Terry wrote:
>
>
> >>>Hello all,
>
> >>>My daughter (junior in HS) wants to be an architect---or thinks she
> >>>does.... =A0There are several universities that offer brief summer
> >>>programs in architecture for high school students. =A0Anyone have any
> >>>experience with 'em and can comment on their utility?
>
> >>>Best -- Terry
>
> >>Where are you? Here in Boston I recommend the BAC summer high school
> >>program.
> >>EDS
>
> >Western Kentucky. =A0Right now we're looking at the programs at Ball
> >State (Muncie IN), also in Mississippi and Wisconsin. =A0Boston might be
> >a bit much for a young lady who has little experience outside a town
> >of about 14,000 pop.
>
> >Thanks -- Terry
>
> Dear Terry,
>
> The majority of the people writing on this newsgroup don't have
> architecture degrees. =A0Is there a computer assisted drafting course your=

> daughter could take? =A0Could she get a part time job in an architecture
> or engineering firm?
>
> Nothing wrong with sending a small town gork to Cambrige for a summer
> program designed for people her age. =A0Before he was Supreme Court
> Justice, Judge Breyer used to bike to work daily from Cambridge to
> downtown Boston. =A0Should give you a concept. =A0Most of Cambridge is
> walkable and doesn't require a world class course in street smarts. =A0
> Other parts of Boston aren't much worse.

>>>The majority of the people writing on this newsgroup don't have
architecture degrees.<<<<<

Good thing.....

cheers
Bob

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