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Posted by Troppo on July 1, 2008, 8:09 am
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> I noted what you said below about it slitting under a nail gun, and
> nails tending to slip and fly off. Now I know ;)
OTOH I'm a bit of a worry with a nail gun. Shot myself twice so far,
fortunately only with brads.
> OTOH, maybe strapping...? As you noted, those websites (with the
> bamboo buildings) didn't seem to go into the joining methods.
So I did a Google search - "joints in bamboo"
http://www.emissionizero.net/Prospettive_-_Our_plans_for_the_future_-_ (ENG)_BAMBOO_JOINTS.html [messy link]
University of Florence - bamboo joint research
http://www.staff.city.ac.uk/earthquakes/Bamboo/Bamboo.htm Shows the whole process - Indian technique. City University London.
Some fairly heavy construction, eg reo stirrups mortared into the voids,
bamboo as permanent formwork.
http://bambus.rwth-aachen.de/eng/fr_referate.html University of Aachen. Several pdf files
There's some fairly elaborate joints, but some that look do-able, eg
making the connectors out of short bits of hardwood, stiffening the
hollows where bolts go through, and if in doubt - bog it.
My kind of building :-)
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Posted by ++ on July 1, 2008, 2:23 pm
No one is apparently thinking about Japanese timber bamboo and other
types actually regularly used for building..
Troppo wrote:
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>>I noted what you said below about it slitting under a nail gun, and
>>nails tending to slip and fly off. Now I know ;)
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>OTOH I'm a bit of a worry with a nail gun. Shot myself twice so far,
>fortunately only with brads.
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>>OTOH, maybe strapping...? As you noted, those websites (with the
>>bamboo buildings) didn't seem to go into the joining methods.
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>So I did a Google search - "joints in bamboo"
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>http://www.emissionizero.net/Prospettive_-_Our_plans_for_the_future_-_
>(ENG)_BAMBOO_JOINTS.html [messy link]
>University of Florence - bamboo joint research
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>http://www.staff.city.ac.uk/earthquakes/Bamboo/Bamboo.htm
>Shows the whole process - Indian technique. City University London.
>Some fairly heavy construction, eg reo stirrups mortared into the voids,
>bamboo as permanent formwork.
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>http://bambus.rwth-aachen.de/eng/fr_referate.html
>University of Aachen. Several pdf files
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>There's some fairly elaborate joints, but some that look do-able, eg
>making the connectors out of short bits of hardwood, stiffening the
>hollows where bolts go through, and if in doubt - bog it.
>My kind of building :-)
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Posted by Kris Krieger on July 1, 2008, 3:25 pm
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>> I noted what you said below about it slitting under a nail gun, and
>> nails tending to slip and fly off. Now I know ;)
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> OTOH I'm a bit of a worry with a nail gun. Shot myself twice so far,
> fortunately only with brads.
That sounds like something I'd do =:-o
I haven't yet graduated beyond a staple gun ;) Haven't done anything so
large that I couldn't use a plain hammer, esp. with the mucked up wrist
- I leave that to the pros ;)
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>> OTOH, maybe strapping...? As you noted, those websites (with the
>> bamboo buildings) didn't seem to go into the joining methods.
>
> So I did a Google search - "joints in bamboo"
>
> http://www.emissionizero.net/Prospettive_-_Our_plans_for_the_future_-_
> (ENG)_BAMBOO_JOINTS.html [messy link]
> University of Florence - bamboo joint research
>
> http://www.staff.city.ac.uk/earthquakes/Bamboo/Bamboo.htm
> Shows the whole process - Indian technique. City University London.
> Some fairly heavy construction, eg reo stirrups mortared into the
> voids, bamboo as permanent formwork.
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> http://bambus.rwth-aachen.de/eng/fr_referate.html
> University of Aachen. Several pdf files
THose are all cool links, thanks! I hadn't searched that ebcasue I'm
still up to my ears obsessing over trying to learn enough electronics to
build a new kind of solar-recharged garden/yard/tabletop LED lamp - I've
gotten into doing the stained-glass (I mentioned that some time back
IIRC) and am building a large-ish (8"X8" and 10.5" tall) item as my
Prototype - I sarted off with only a small amount of very vague
information (on the level of "resistors rest; capacitors store"), so
I've been puring through books an donline-resources, as well as tech
datasheets for all sorts of components, and I got to where I'm listing
all the required components so I can order them (like, two of each ;) )
and try to build the actualy prototype light.
To quote monty Python: "My brain hurts!" <LOL!>
So, I didn't get to search - but I saved your links to my desktop for
later perusal, ebcasue I think that this is an interesting idea, using
Bamboo for building. Some fo the designs are way cool, others are tidy
little cottages, and I'm interested in seeing the entire spectrum from
one to the other.
((I'm generally interested in modern adaptations of ancient materials.))
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> There's some fairly elaborate joints, but some that look do-able, eg
> making the connectors out of short bits of hardwood, stiffening the
> hollows where bolts go through, and if in doubt - bog it.
"Bog it"? Is that like "making it up as I go along"? <g!>
> My kind of building :-)
As a person who tends to hypercomplexificationalize(R) things, I can
vouch that there is much to be said for occasionally stepping back from
over-engineering <L!>
ANyhoo, thanks for those links, I will go back and read them more
closely.
For now, off to Digikey.com before I forget what I was up to ;)
- Kris
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Posted by RicodJour on July 1, 2008, 4:10 pm
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> THose are all cool links, thanks! I hadn't searched that ebcasue I'm
> still up to my ears obsessing over trying to learn enough electronics to
> build a new kind of solar-recharged garden/yard/tabletop LED lamp - I've
> gotten into doing the stained-glass (I mentioned that some time back
> IIRC) and am building a large-ish (8"X8" and 10.5" tall) item as my
> Prototype
I muck about with stained glass, Kris. Are you using copper foil or
lead came? Post a link to some pictures of the stuff you're doing.
R
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Posted by Kris Krieger on July 4, 2008, 10:50 am
f3725a63a8b7@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
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>> THose are all cool links, thanks! I hadn't searched that ebcasue I'm
>> still up to my ears obsessing over trying to learn enough electronics to
>> build a new kind of solar-recharged garden/yard/tabletop LED lamp - I've
>> gotten into doing the stained-glass (I mentioned that some time back
>> IIRC) and am building a large-ish (8"X8" and 10.5" tall) item as my
>> Prototype
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> I muck about with stained glass, Kris. Are you using copper foil or
> lead came? Post a link to some pictures of the stuff you're doing.
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I took a class in copper foil recently, and decided that it suits me better
than does lead came, mostly because I tend to perfer more "fussy" work (the
first class I took, back in 1993 or therabouts, was Lead Came).
Pics - yikes, I have to upload my whole website still - I keep getting
sidetracked. OTOH, so far, I don't have a lot to put up in terms of the
glass. I like doing it a lot and fully intend to get my work rate up to
where I can sell some things, but I first have to get my grinder-station up
and running (I have to build a small "enclosure" to control the splatter,
because I don't have a studio space I can mess up ;) ) and I've been
sidetracked by the SOlar Light part. I've polled several people and
potential sales venues, and *all* had a big complaint about how dim solar
lights are - at least, the commercially available ones. SO I've been
studying up one electronics, and looking into all sorts of parts and
techniques, so as to get to where I could design and build a prototype High
Brightness solar-charged battery-powered light (i.e. giving off about the
same amount of light as eitehr a 20-25 watt incandescent (small fixture) or
a 40 watt incandescent (larger fixture or colored class) (currently tryign
clear textured).
THat being said, once I get some photos online, I'll let you all know <G!>
Stylistically, I prefer what I call "stylized realism" - I work on getting
the overall identifiers corrrect in terms of shape/proportions, and how the
subject interacts with gravity, but done so in a a pen'n'ink/Japanese print
sort of way.
How about yours - copper foil or lead came? Design style, subject
preference, etc.? Photos?
- K.
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