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Building identification johnston.rs 05-02-2007
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Posted by on May 2, 2007, 3:45 am
Hello,
I am an art historian, and as part of a current research project I am
trying to identify/confirm identification of a building that was
published in Amedee Ozenfant's book "The Foundations of Modern Art".
It was titled Copenhagen Prison but I have been unable to confirm this
or anything else about the building. I have posted a picture of it at
the link below and if anyone could provide any information at all it
would be much appreciated.
http://johnston.rs.googlepages.com/building

Regards,
Ryan


Posted by Jude Alexander on May 2, 2007, 9:53 am

> Hello,
> I am an art historian, and as part of a current research project I am
> trying to identify/confirm identification of a building that was
> published in Amedee Ozenfant's book "The Foundations of Modern Art".
> It was titled Copenhagen Prison but I have been unable to confirm this
> or anything else about the building. I have posted a picture of it at
> the link below and if anyone could provide any information at all it
> would be much appreciated.
> http://johnston.rs.googlepages.com/building
>
> Regards,
> Ryan


This is it - shaped like a pentagram:
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:xXynm0uZ3NEJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kastellet,_Copenhagen+Copenhagen+Prison&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us&lr=lang_en

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:4CRby_Ih1LAJ:news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3036450.stm+Copenhagen+Prison&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=%22Copenhagen%22%22Prison%22%5C&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:UN70pc3CyjUJ:news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/europe/3036450.stm+%22Copenhagen+Prison%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=20&gl=us&lr=lang_en

Perhaps the following can lead to something:
http://tpj.sagepub.com/cgi/content/citation/68/1/63

I'll let you wade through this:
http://denmark.dk/portal/page?_pageid=374,648389&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

Good luck



Posted by Jude Alexander on May 2, 2007, 10:02 am

> Hello,
> I am an art historian, and as part of a current research project I am
> trying to identify/confirm identification of a building that was
> published in Amedee Ozenfant's book "The Foundations of Modern Art".
> It was titled Copenhagen Prison but I have been unable to confirm this
> or anything else about the building. I have posted a picture of it at
> the link below and if anyone could provide any information at all it
> would be much appreciated.
> http://johnston.rs.googlepages.com/building
>
> Regards,
> Ryan

Well, what can I say? You stirred my interest and I found the following:


http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:a85R5SIoVuUJ:www.homeandabroad.com/viewSiteDetails.ha%3FmainInfoId%3D136549+Kastellet+Prison&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&lr=lang_en

http://explorer.altopix.com/map/92nfix/1/386/Kastellet_(fortress).htm?order=hits

There are lots of hits. However, it's clear that it's not the same
structure. Without a picture, being described as a pentagram, I thought it
was the same building. Could the author have gotten the wrong picture
associated with the prison?

To follow all the hits I found:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Kastellet%22%22Prison%22&btnG=Search



Posted by gruhn on May 2, 2007, 8:12 pm
My first thoughts (before being poluted by the OP's actual text ;-)
were also of pre-panopticon model prison. I found

http://www.victorianweb.org/periodicals/iln/11c.html

which is not the same, but seems clearly related.

I can't figure what the round areas in each of them are for, but they
were similar enough to make me think the OP's image is also a prison.


Posted by on May 2, 2007, 9:24 pm
Thanks for the info Jude and Gruhn. No, it definitely isn't the
Kastellet fortress in Copenhagen, but I'll have a look at that article
in The Prison Journal when I'm at the library later this afternoon to
see if there's anything there. There's always the chance its been
closed and perhaps even demolished since the book was published in the
'30s. Nonetheless, I think that plan of Pentonville demonstrates that
it is/was definitely a prison, even if not in Copenhagen. Will let
you know if anything turns up.
btw gruhn, what does OP stand for?

> My first thoughts (before being poluted by the OP's actual text ;-)
> were also of pre-panopticon model prison. I found
>
> http://www.victorianweb.org/periodicals/iln/11c.html
>
> which is not the same, but seems clearly related.
>
> I can't figure what the round areas in each of them are for, but they
> were similar enough to make me think the OP's image is also a prison.



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