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Check it out - Ismet Krchic' ++ 01-31-2008
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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on January 31, 2008, 3:26 pm

>
>
> Junior wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>>primo gusle:
>>>http://www.ojkrajino.com/muzika/crnogorske/Crnogorske%20-%20Mojkovacki%20lav.mp3
>>>
>>>absolutely ancient. You can just picture tribes coming outa da Kavkaz
>>>
>>>
>>
>>And I thought waterboarding was bad...................
>
> Basically, I think that what happened was when the tribes came out, they
> hadn't quote perfected the instrument, or hadn't quite remembered all
> about it. The ancient variety was actually made of metal in China. The
> nearest equivalent is Mongolian. All these instruments have a resonating
> soundbox, are spike fiddles, are bowed in the same unique way, and,
> importantly for people who used to live on a steppe, have horse heads.
> Here is the Tuva version:
>
> http://www.alashensemble.com/instruments_byzaanchy.htm

Is he fingering that thing from behind the 'string'?



Posted by Michael Bulatovich on January 31, 2008, 4:30 pm

>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Junior wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>primo gusle:
>>>>>http://www.ojkrajino.com/muzika/crnogorske/Crnogorske%20-%20Mojkovacki%20lav.mp3
>>>>>
>>>>>absolutely ancient. You can just picture tribes coming outa da Kavkaz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>And I thought waterboarding was bad...................
>>>
>>> Basically, I think that what happened was when the tribes came out, they
>>> hadn't quote perfected the instrument, or hadn't quite remembered all
>>> about it. The ancient variety was actually made of metal in China. The
>>> nearest equivalent is Mongolian. All these instruments have a
>>> resonating soundbox, are spike fiddles, are bowed in the same unique
>>> way, and, importantly for people who used to live on a steppe, have
>>> horse heads. Here is the Tuva version:
>>>
>>> http://www.alashensemble.com/instruments_byzaanchy.htm
>>
>> Is he fingering that thing from behind the 'string'?
>
> No.
> Its called *nulling*, effectively making the string shorter and therefore
> raising the tone.
> Guitarists do it all the time with both hands, and all fingers.

IOW, "yes".



Posted by Michael Bulatovich on January 31, 2008, 9:28 pm

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Junior wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>primo gusle:
>>>>>>>http://www.ojkrajino.com/muzika/crnogorske/Crnogorske%20-%20Mojkovacki%20lav.mp3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>absolutely ancient. You can just picture tribes coming outa da
>>>>>>>Kavkaz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And I thought waterboarding was bad...................
>>>>>
>>>>> Basically, I think that what happened was when the tribes came out,
>>>>> they hadn't quote perfected the instrument, or hadn't quite remembered
>>>>> all about it. The ancient variety was actually made of metal in
>>>>> China. The nearest equivalent is Mongolian. All these instruments
>>>>> have a resonating soundbox, are spike fiddles, are bowed in the same
>>>>> unique way, and, importantly for people who used to live on a steppe,
>>>>> have horse heads. Here is the Tuva version:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.alashensemble.com/instruments_byzaanchy.htm
>>>>
>>>> Is he fingering that thing from behind the 'string'?
>>>
>>> No.
>>> Its called *nulling*, effectively making the string shorter and
>>> therefore raising the tone.
>>> Guitarists do it all the time with both hands, and all fingers.
>>
>> IOW, "yes".
>
> Fingering requires the use of the *pad* of the finger.
> Nulling uses the pad, sides and back of the fingers, the palm of the
> hands, etc.
> There are also distinctive sounds from each technique as well with
> fingering being a *brighter* sound because of the direct nature.
> The guy in the pic was using the back of his finger, thus producing a
> nulled sound to the played string.

So you also play the gusla. Who knew? You might want to take a closer look
at that "string" and that neck. I'd love to hear an example of an even
relatively 'bright' sounding gusla.



Posted by Michael Bulatovich on February 1, 2008, 9:02 am

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Junior wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>primo gusle:
>>>>>>>>>http://www.ojkrajino.com/muzika/crnogorske/Crnogorske%20-%20Mojkovacki%20lav.mp3
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>absolutely ancient. You can just picture tribes coming outa da
>>>>>>>>>Kavkaz
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And I thought waterboarding was bad...................
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Basically, I think that what happened was when the tribes came out,
>>>>>>> they hadn't quote perfected the instrument, or hadn't quite
>>>>>>> remembered all about it. The ancient variety was actually made of
>>>>>>> metal in China. The nearest equivalent is Mongolian. All these
>>>>>>> instruments have a resonating soundbox, are spike fiddles, are bowed
>>>>>>> in the same unique way, and, importantly for people who used to live
>>>>>>> on a steppe, have horse heads. Here is the Tuva version:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.alashensemble.com/instruments_byzaanchy.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is he fingering that thing from behind the 'string'?
>>>>>
>>>>> No.
>>>>> Its called *nulling*, effectively making the string shorter and
>>>>> therefore raising the tone.
>>>>> Guitarists do it all the time with both hands, and all fingers.
>>>>
>>>> IOW, "yes".
>>>
>>> Fingering requires the use of the *pad* of the finger.
>>> Nulling uses the pad, sides and back of the fingers, the palm of the
>>> hands, etc.
>>> There are also distinctive sounds from each technique as well with
>>> fingering being a *brighter* sound because of the direct nature.
>>> The guy in the pic was using the back of his finger, thus producing a
>>> nulled sound to the played string.
>>
>> So you also play the gusla. Who knew? You might want to take a closer
>> look at that "string" and that neck. I'd love to hear an example of an
>> even relatively 'bright' sounding gusla.
>
> If the players does not use the pad of the finger to contact the string
> the resulting sound will be nulled, or dulled.

Your breadth of expertise is astonishing.



Posted by ++ on January 31, 2008, 6:52 pm


Michael Bulatovich wrote:

>
>
>>Junior wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>primo gusle:
>>>>http://www.ojkrajino.com/muzika/crnogorske/Crnogorske%20-%20Mojkovacki%20lav.mp3
>>>>
>>>>absolutely ancient. You can just picture tribes coming outa da Kavkaz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>And I thought waterboarding was bad...................
>>>
>>>
>>Basically, I think that what happened was when the tribes came out, they
>>hadn't quote perfected the instrument, or hadn't quite remembered all
>>about it. The ancient variety was actually made of metal in China. The
>>nearest equivalent is Mongolian. All these instruments have a resonating
>>soundbox, are spike fiddles, are bowed in the same unique way, and,
>>importantly for people who used to live on a steppe, have horse heads.
>>Here is the Tuva version:
>>
>>http://www.alashensemble.com/instruments_byzaanchy.htm
>>
>>
>
>Is he fingering that thing from behind the 'string'?
>
>
both sides

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>
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