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Posted by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Se=F1or_Popcorn on July 8, 2007, 2:16 pm
Don wrote:
>> Don wrote:
>>> "Seņor Popcorn-Coconut"> wrote
>>>> Don wrote:
>>>>> "Seņor Popcorn-Coconut"> wrote
>>>>>> Sure why not, and my design calls for two of them.
>>>>>> You, yourself, might even be inspired by it enough to attempt one of
>>>>>> your own.
>>>>>> I expect mine to be clean and contemporary, with a good amount of
>>>>>> glass and balance other materials, like wood, metal and stone, and
>>>>>> with the finished "containers" hardly showing, and/or while
>>>>>> transcending their original intent.
>>>>> Rico will remember this.
>>>>> A few years ago I bought some of them cheap stamped out metal brackets
>>>>> for making sawhorses quickly.
>>>>> I jammmed some 2x4's in em and nailed one across the top but it was
>>>>> real flimsy.
>>>>> So I ran a slew of nails through the brackets into the 2x4's hoping to
>>>>> make them stronger.
>>>>> Only marginally.
>>>>> Anyway, I did this and I did that and I did this again, boards,
>>>>> brackets, screws, nails and bolts were flying until I had a pair of $50
>>>>> sawhorses.
>>>>> I went the long way around.
>>>>> I tried to save a buck but it cost me $50.
>>>>>
>>>>> shipping container = sawhorse brackets
>>>>>
>>>>> They both seem cheap upfront, because they are.
>>>>> And neither are anywhere close to doing the required job.
>>>> Your example seems to dovetail poorly, but, point taken at any rate, and
>>>> maybe I'll be doomed to find out for myself. :)
>>>>
>>>> But I do know there're many more people and architects experimenting
>>>> with shipping containers since I first proposed it about 4 years ago.
>>>> They are "just raw material".
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, talk to me again about it when I get going on it-- assuming
>>>> we're still around.
>>> I'll be around.
>>> Reminds me of a Richard Prior thing I saw long ago.
>>> He said:
>>> 'Def came knockin' on my door one night. I opened the door and kicked def
>>> square in his ass'. LOL
>>>
>>> This is the thing about the *home shows* and *glossy rags* that I hate.
>>> They make people, that don't know any better, believe things are other
>>> than what they are.
>>> Way back when you first mentioned the shipping container thing I looked
>>> into it and found what I suspected.
>>> Hot air.
>>> Hot air inflated with fluffy text and glossy pix of silliness.
>>>
>>> By the time you do all the things necessary to make a shipping container
>>> be what you want it to be you will have spent 4x as much resources as
>>> using conventional materials and methods.
>>> There's a reason why there is so many *ranch* style homes about,
>>> constructed of 2x4's and roof trusses and vinyl siding.
>>> They are cheap, fast, and they work.
>>>
>>> Alternative construction practices are generally much more expensive than
>>> conventional stuff, in all ways.
>>>
>> Then let it be so... You can't warn or teach a kid about everything. They
>> have to learn some things on their own. And learning from one's own trials
>> and tribulations can also make a more enriching learning experience and
>> help contribute to greater wisdom and take something like a shipping
>> container to new levels not otherwise considered.
>>
>> There's an idea floating around somewhere out there that suggests that
>> allowing conventional wisdom to rule can corrupt thinking and creativity.
>>
>> In any case, I'd concern myself more with tracts and tracts and tracts and
>> tracts of cookie-cutter-cutter-cut-cut-cutter "developer" housing than
>> some guy like me who wants to make a one-off. ;P :)
>
> I guess at the bottom line it all depends, firstly, on where one will do it.
> I'm a long time inhabitant of society and it will take me a long time to
> adjust to the extreme lack of rules and supervision that exist here in Brown
> county.
> You could plop a shipping container or 50 on your property around here and
> nobody would pay it any mind at all.
> In Cape Coral, FL, where I'm from, you'd never get across the county line,
> er, state line, with the thing.
>
> Here, you could sit the thing on your land, prop the corner with a rock to
> level it, move on in, and over the course of time create your dream home as
> money and attitude allowed.
> No one would bother you and you wouldn't be restricted by nosey asses bent
> on telling you what you could or couldn't do, or how YOUR behavior on YOUR
> land *might* effect their property values.
> In Cape Coral the numerous levels of building permits and all the stuff that
> goes with it would stop you dead in your tracks, and if you did manage to
> navigate the convoluted and lying assed process fruitfully the local
> braindead citizenry would hound you mercilessly with every manner of
> contempt and deterrence.
> Society is hostile.
I suppose increasing regulations can be proportional to increasing
population densities.
> Seems to me that the thing I would concentrate on are what the costs of
> moving a shipping container are and places where such a thing can exist
> permanently.
If you treat a shipping container as a material, rather than a container
as such, perhaps you can creatively sneak it into the design and under
the radar? Anyway, my design might provide some inspiration. None of the
ones I've seen so far do too much in this regard and most still look
like shipping containers. My design, which hasn't really changed in the
past 4 years, works with the container, rather than against it.
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