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Current architectural styles? Donald Newcomb 06-21-2007
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Posted by ++ on July 1, 2007, 7:31 pm
Kris Krieger wrote:

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>>Edgar wrote:
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>>>I'm definitely not bigger, and this is a open forum, if you don't like
>>>it don't read it, or go the extra mile and plonk us.
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>>Who's "us"
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>>>We're not going to change the world in here, as much as you think we
>>>might.
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>>I'm thinking I was suggesting that it is inappropriate to make fun of
>>someone's surname, especially an attempt to turn a surname into a
>>common currency root insult. I would be wrong to fail to comment on
>>such an insult.
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>Unfortunately, this happens. Examples include the name "crapper", which
>IIRC started out as a person's surname, and came to identify his invention.
>And how many people have kept the surname "Hitler"? Like ti or not, when
>people do things that are either spectacularly great, or spectacularly
>stupid, or spectcularly screwed-up, their name tends to become associated
>with their action.
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>If Nifong had cared at all about his family name, he would have deported
>himself with something that at least had *some* resemblance, however
>distant, to propriety. Not meaning to be rude, but intending only to
>clarify: If he didn't care on ewhit ot tittle about the potential effects
>of his actions upon his family name, why the heck is the rest of the world
>supposed to wither into whimperiing little gelid pools of spineless goo
>just because you choose to get all politically correct (i.e.:
>hypersensitive) about something he obviously didn't himself care about?
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>

Uh, no, Mr. Nifong would not have had to expect ungentlemanly behavior
on the part of a netizen. It IS meaning to be rude, being rude,
apologetics for being rude, excuses for being rude. Yeah, it's rude.


Posted by gruhn on June 28, 2007, 11:13 pm
> It's simply innappropriate to make fun of anyone's name

I have a number of acquaintances who have been calling the current
sitting president "Twig" and similar words since before he was first
elected. I find it says far more about them than it does the
president.

On the other hand, using the word "nifong" derogatorily as seen here
is and expanding its use to verb and adjective forms is not making fun
of the name but rather is a comment on the person. And in particular,
not "making fun" at all but rather making a serious political comment
that needs to be spread.

"Twig" says "I have no actual complaints to make about this person and
must 'attack' his name."
"Nifong" says "this person has done something so notable that it needs
to be marked, perhaps for all time."

I suppose that if you consider his actions laudable then you may feel
that the use of his name is mere taunting. Even so, you'd have to
admit that it would be making fun of him and not his name.

"Twig" is a clear try at a pun. A kind of joke. A way to make fun of
the thing itself.
"Nifonging" isn't much as a direct mock at the name. It's more of a
gerund. A way to ... noun verbs.

> The person you
> are making fun of in hopes to somehow making smaller so you can

Ah, good old armchair psychology. I give it as much credence as I read
"Pop Psych".

> momentarily congratulate yourself on being bigger, probably has
> perfectly decent relatives who might be nice people to know, if you
> weren't the person making fun of their surname.

In that vein... "why, what happened to you?"


Posted by Edgar on June 29, 2007, 11:14 am
>> It's simply innappropriate to make fun of anyone's name
>
> I have a number of acquaintances who have been calling the current
> sitting president "Twig" and similar words since before he was first
> elected. I find it says far more about them than it does the
> president.
>
> On the other hand, using the word "nifong" derogatorily as seen here
> is and expanding its use to verb and adjective forms is not making fun
> of the name but rather is a comment on the person. And in particular,
> not "making fun" at all but rather making a serious political comment
> that needs to be spread.
>
> "Twig" says "I have no actual complaints to make about this person and
> must 'attack' his name."
> "Nifong" says "this person has done something so notable that it needs
> to be marked, perhaps for all time."
>
> I suppose that if you consider his actions laudable then you may feel
> that the use of his name is mere taunting. Even so, you'd have to
> admit that it would be making fun of him and not his name.
>
> "Twig" is a clear try at a pun. A kind of joke. A way to make fun of
> the thing itself.
> "Nifonging" isn't much as a direct mock at the name. It's more of a
> gerund. A way to ... noun verbs.
>
>> The person you
>> are making fun of in hopes to somehow making smaller so you can
>
> Ah, good old armchair psychology. I give it as much credence as I read
> "Pop Psych".
>
>> momentarily congratulate yourself on being bigger, probably has
>> perfectly decent relatives who might be nice people to know, if you
>> weren't the person making fun of their surname.
>
> In that vein... "why, what happened to you?"
>

Nah, they use twig, because Bush is already taken for so many, many
wonderful things, LOL.

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Edgar



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