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FOG EDS 11-06-2007
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Posted by EDS on November 6, 2007, 9:34 am
MIT is suing FOG.
From The Boston Globe:
"The Massachusetts Institute of Technology has filed a negligence suit
against world-renowned architect Frank Gehry, charging that flaws in his
design of the $300 million Stata Center in Cambridge, one of the most
celebrated works of architecture unveiled in years, caused leaks to spring,
masonry to crack, mold to grow, and drainage to back up.
The suit says that MIT paid Los Angeles-based Gehry Partners $15 million to
design the Stata Center, which was hailed by critics as innovative and
eye-catching with its unconventional walls and radical angles. But soon
after its completion in spring 2004, the center's outdoor amphitheater began
to crack due to drainage problems, the suit says. Snow and ice cascaded
dangerously from window boxes and other projecting roof areas, blocking
emergency exits and damaging other parts of the building, according to the
suit. Mold grew on the center's brick exterior, the suit says, and there
were persistent leaks throughout the building.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/11/06/mit_sues_gehry_citing_leaks_in_300m_complex/

Guess he never designed for a cold climate.

EDS



Posted by 3D Peruna on November 6, 2007, 12:24 pm
EDS wrote:
> MIT is suing FOG.
> From The Boston Globe:
> "The Massachusetts Institute of Technology has filed a negligence suit
> against world-renowned architect Frank Gehry, charging that flaws in his
> design of the $300 million Stata Center in Cambridge, one of the most
> celebrated works of architecture unveiled in years, caused leaks to spring,
> masonry to crack, mold to grow, and drainage to back up.
> The suit says that MIT paid Los Angeles-based Gehry Partners $15 million to
> design the Stata Center, which was hailed by critics as innovative and
> eye-catching with its unconventional walls and radical angles. But soon
> after its completion in spring 2004, the center's outdoor amphitheater began
> to crack due to drainage problems, the suit says. Snow and ice cascaded
> dangerously from window boxes and other projecting roof areas, blocking
> emergency exits and damaging other parts of the building, according to the
> suit. Mold grew on the center's brick exterior, the suit says, and there
> were persistent leaks throughout the building.
>
>
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/11/06/mit_sues_gehry_citing_leaks_in_300m_complex/
>
> Guess he never designed for a cold climate.

As much as I'd love to pile on (I'm not a FOG fan), I can feel for him.
We've had a few experiences where we designed and detailed things
right and the builder ignored what we asked them to do and the owner
accepted the inferior/unspecified construction. They then call us when
there are problems. The owner then blames us for letting the contractor
do what they did (paperwork notwithstanding). It'll be interesting to
see how this works out...

I will say, though, that it's clear he didn't think about snow & ice -
and this is the architect's problem. Every time I design something for
a cold climate I try and consider where the water, in whatever form it's
in, will go. It's got to drain somewheres...

Posted by Pierre Levesque on November 6, 2007, 12:30 pm

> EDS wrote:
>> MIT is suing FOG.
>> From The Boston Globe:
>> "The Massachusetts Institute of Technology has filed a negligence suit
>> against world-renowned architect Frank Gehry, charging that flaws in his
>> design of the $300 million Stata Center in Cambridge, one of the most
>> celebrated works of architecture unveiled in years, caused leaks to
>> spring, masonry to crack, mold to grow, and drainage to back up.
>> The suit says that MIT paid Los Angeles-based Gehry Partners $15 million
>> to design the Stata Center, which was hailed by critics as innovative and
>> eye-catching with its unconventional walls and radical angles. But soon
>> after its completion in spring 2004, the center's outdoor amphitheater
>> began to crack due to drainage problems, the suit says. Snow and ice
>> cascaded dangerously from window boxes and other projecting roof areas,
>> blocking emergency exits and damaging other parts of the building,
>> according to the suit. Mold grew on the center's brick exterior, the suit
>> says, and there were persistent leaks throughout the building.
>>
>>
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/11/06/mit_sues_gehry_citing_leaks_in_300m_complex/
>>
>> Guess he never designed for a cold climate.
>
> As much as I'd love to pile on (I'm not a FOG fan), I can feel for him.
> We've had a few experiences where we designed and detailed things right
> and the builder ignored what we asked them to do and the owner accepted
> the inferior/unspecified construction. They then call us when there are
> problems. The owner then blames us for letting the contractor do what
> they did (paperwork notwithstanding). It'll be interesting to see how
> this works out...
>
> I will say, though, that it's clear he didn't think about snow & ice - and
> this is the architect's problem. Every time I design something for a cold
> climate I try and consider where the water, in whatever form it's in, will
> go. It's got to drain somewheres...

Ahhh... to have the knowledge of and use of crickets....



Posted by Michael Bulatovich on November 6, 2007, 2:06 pm

> EDS wrote:
>> MIT is suing FOG.
>> From The Boston Globe:
>> "The Massachusetts Institute of Technology has filed a negligence suit
>> against world-renowned architect Frank Gehry, charging that flaws in his
>> design of the $300 million Stata Center in Cambridge, one of the most
>> celebrated works of architecture unveiled in years, caused leaks to
>> spring, masonry to crack, mold to grow, and drainage to back up.
>> The suit says that MIT paid Los Angeles-based Gehry Partners $15 million
>> to design the Stata Center, which was hailed by critics as innovative and
>> eye-catching with its unconventional walls and radical angles. But soon
>> after its completion in spring 2004, the center's outdoor amphitheater
>> began to crack due to drainage problems, the suit says. Snow and ice
>> cascaded dangerously from window boxes and other projecting roof areas,
>> blocking emergency exits and damaging other parts of the building,
>> according to the suit. Mold grew on the center's brick exterior, the suit
>> says, and there were persistent leaks throughout the building.
>>
>>
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/11/06/mit_sues_gehry_citing_leaks_in_300m_complex/
>>
>> Guess he never designed for a cold climate.
>
> As much as I'd love to pile on (I'm not a FOG fan), I can feel for him.
> We've had a few experiences where we designed and detailed things right
> and the builder ignored what we asked them to do and the owner accepted
> the inferior/unspecified construction. They then call us when there are
> problems. The owner then blames us for letting the contractor do what
> they did (paperwork notwithstanding). It'll be interesting to see how
> this works out...
>
> I will say, though, that it's clear he didn't think about snow & ice - and
> this is the architect's problem. Every time I design something for a cold
> climate I try and consider where the water, in whatever form it's in, will
> go. It's got to drain somewheres...

This will be the first winter for our "crystal", which is more of a
"crumple". Any wagers?
--


MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca



Posted by JD on November 12, 2007, 6:48 pm
A couple of fun editorials...

http://www.nypost.com/seven/11112007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/frank_lloyd_wrong_878032.htm?page=0

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2007/11/revenge-of-the-nerds-mit-sues-gehry.php



This group used to have a few Gehry fanatics. Where are you guys?


> MIT is suing FOG.
> From The Boston Globe:
> "The Massachusetts Institute of Technology has filed a negligence suit
> against world-renowned architect Frank Gehry, charging that flaws in his
> design of the $300 million Stata Center in Cambridge, one of the most
> celebrated works of architecture unveiled in years, caused leaks to
> spring, masonry to crack, mold to grow, and drainage to back up.
> The suit says that MIT paid Los Angeles-based Gehry Partners $15 million
> to design the Stata Center, which was hailed by critics as innovative and
> eye-catching with its unconventional walls and radical angles. But soon
> after its completion in spring 2004, the center's outdoor amphitheater
> began to crack due to drainage problems, the suit says. Snow and ice
> cascaded dangerously from window boxes and other projecting roof areas,
> blocking emergency exits and damaging other parts of the building,
> according to the suit. Mold grew on the center's brick exterior, the suit
> says, and there were persistent leaks throughout the building.
>
>
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/11/06/mit_sues_gehry_citing_leaks_in_300m_complex/
>
> Guess he never designed for a cold climate.
>
> EDS
>
>



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