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Posted by ++ on November 16, 2007, 7:12 pm


Michael Bulatovich wrote:

>Not you too! Don, no problem. Ken, of course, but you?
>
>http://www.redgreen.com/
>
>
Particularly like 'em orange.

>>
>
>I like the *civic* aspect. I mistrust patriotism.
>
>
Patriotism need not be equated with nationalism. Civic pride is but one
aspect of patriotism.

>
>
>>> "Beaver Modern."
>>>
>>>
>>Have any examples you can steer us all to view? Hard to get a concept.
>>
>>
>
>Muted color pallete. A little zinc, some exposed varnished wood, even though
>it'll disintegrate. Add clear annodized aluminum, maybe some horizontal
>stone, a pinch of stucco. Gluelam with exposed metal connectors. Oh
>yeah...must be assymetrical. Very safe.
>
>
yeech...Yes, I've seen it. It kind of like a parks building only larger.

>
>
>>My most unfave was what I call the neobrutalists....
>>
>>
>
>Links?
>
>

I should have called them by what they call themselves,
deconstructivists. Now you know them, right?

>
>
>>The bundling aspect is bad, especially since some large A/Es try to claim
>>they can do it all when sometimes they would be better off , or the
>>project would be better off, subcontracting certain parts of expertise.
>>Doesn't Canada have small business setasides?
>>
>>
>
>If I knew what that was I could answer. As I said, the province here does
>make an effort to see that some of the work is available to small firms
>through the ORC, which uses "Merx"
>http://tinyurl.com/34y6sf , or at least, it has in the past.
>
>
hmmm. Problem here is that "small" definition in the US is huge, otherwise.


Posted by Michael Bulatovich on November 18, 2007, 6:05 pm

>
>
> Michael Bulatovich wrote:
>
>>Not you too! Don, no problem. Ken, of course, but you?
>>
>>http://www.redgreen.com/
>>
> Particularly like 'em orange.
>
>>>
>>
>>I like the *civic* aspect. I mistrust patriotism.
>>
> Patriotism need not be equated with nationalism. Civic pride is but one
> aspect of patriotism.
>
>>
>>>> "Beaver Modern."
>>>>
>>>Have any examples you can steer us all to view? Hard to get a concept.
>>>
>>
>>Muted color pallete. A little zinc, some exposed varnished wood, even
>>though it'll disintegrate. Add clear annodized aluminum, maybe some
>>horizontal stone, a pinch of stucco. Gluelam with exposed metal
>>connectors. Oh yeah...must be assymetrical. Very safe.
>>
> yeech...Yes, I've seen it. It kind of like a parks building only larger.
>
>>
>>>My most unfave was what I call the neobrutalists....
>>>
>>
>>Links?
>>
>
> I should have called them by what they call themselves, deconstructivists.
> Now you know them, right?

Oooh. The *cool* kids. We don't take many chances up here so they haven't
done too well. We like our Beaver Modern.



Posted by EDS on November 17, 2007, 4:59 pm

>
>
> Michael Bulatovich wrote:
>
>>> A new sense of the old American Public Works Program would help, too.
>>> What's the situation in Canada?
>>>
>>
>>From my perspective, competitions are not for small (one man) practices
>>for practical reasons, unless you married well. Public work is done by
>>various levels of governments, and they vary in how receptive they are in
>>giving work to small practices:
>>
>>The Feds are not friendly at all. They wear belts and suspenders.
>>
>
> I rather like suspenders, when the are red or bright green or otherwise
> scream.
>
>>The Province, as I understand it, is pretty good about spreading around
>>the work, though I've never bid on any myself. I've been meaning to give
>>it a try, as one of my current clients use to be a big wig at the agency
>>that doles out the work, and he could hold my hand though the process, but
>>it's relatively uninteresting to me so I never do it.
>>
> I rather like the patriotic aspect of federal or local work.
>
>>The municipalities are highly political, and, blind competition or not,
>>the staff know the work of their friends, and the staff pick the juries
>>who also know the work of their friends...We're starting to get a bland
>>sameness to public work that a colleague has dubbed, "Beaver Modern."
>
> Have any examples you can steer us all to view? Hard to get a concept.
>
>>This has led to a race to hire name brand foreigners selling 'sizzle' on
>>purple stilts, or crumpled aluminum trainwrecks overhanging the public
>>realm, where the commissions are by semi-private institutions.
>>
>
> My most unfave was what I call the neobrutalists....
>
>>For some, a more worrisome local trend has been the bundling of projects
>>so that you have to be big to do a small thing, because they'll only give
>>out small things out in clumps, or attached to big things. There are
>>billions about to be spent here over the next few years so there is a
>>feeding frenzy now going on with big firms eating other big firms to
>>become bigger firms so they can handle all this work, and American firms
>>are buying up mid-sized firms to get a foothold in the province. Pity the
>>employees after it's all over....
>>
>
> The bundling aspect is bad, especially since some large A/Es try to claim
> they can do it all when sometimes they would be better off , or the
> project would be better off, subcontracting certain parts of expertise.
> Doesn't Canada have small business setasides? I actually wish the US had
> micro business setasides to keep small firms in actions, especially tiny
> minority and tiny women owned (or both or all). I really think that
> architectural vision is enhanced when there are lots of happy helping
> hands, so to speak.
USA had a WAM (Women and Minority) program for small firms up to a few years
ago (may still be running) The firm I was last at was minority (chinese)
owned and got a lot of government jobs. I was the token WASP ;-)
EDS
>
>>I keep my nose out of it and work for private clients, mainly
>>entrepreneurs. They are used to weighing options, making decisions, and
>>judging people's abilities.
>>
>
> That's solid



Posted by Michael Bulatovich on November 18, 2007, 6:07 pm

>
>>
>>
>> Michael Bulatovich wrote:
>>
>>>> A new sense of the old American Public Works Program would help, too.
>>>> What's the situation in Canada?
>>>>
>>>
>>>From my perspective, competitions are not for small (one man) practices
>>>for practical reasons, unless you married well. Public work is done by
>>>various levels of governments, and they vary in how receptive they are in
>>>giving work to small practices:
>>>
>>>The Feds are not friendly at all. They wear belts and suspenders.
>>>
>>
>> I rather like suspenders, when the are red or bright green or otherwise
>> scream.
>>
>>>The Province, as I understand it, is pretty good about spreading around
>>>the work, though I've never bid on any myself. I've been meaning to give
>>>it a try, as one of my current clients use to be a big wig at the agency
>>>that doles out the work, and he could hold my hand though the process,
>>>but it's relatively uninteresting to me so I never do it.
>>>
>> I rather like the patriotic aspect of federal or local work.
>>
>>>The municipalities are highly political, and, blind competition or not,
>>>the staff know the work of their friends, and the staff pick the juries
>>>who also know the work of their friends...We're starting to get a bland
>>>sameness to public work that a colleague has dubbed, "Beaver Modern."
>>
>> Have any examples you can steer us all to view? Hard to get a concept.
>>
>>>This has led to a race to hire name brand foreigners selling 'sizzle' on
>>>purple stilts, or crumpled aluminum trainwrecks overhanging the public
>>>realm, where the commissions are by semi-private institutions.
>>>
>>
>> My most unfave was what I call the neobrutalists....
>>
>>>For some, a more worrisome local trend has been the bundling of projects
>>>so that you have to be big to do a small thing, because they'll only give
>>>out small things out in clumps, or attached to big things. There are
>>>billions about to be spent here over the next few years so there is a
>>>feeding frenzy now going on with big firms eating other big firms to
>>>become bigger firms so they can handle all this work, and American firms
>>>are buying up mid-sized firms to get a foothold in the province. Pity the
>>>employees after it's all over....
>>>
>>
>> The bundling aspect is bad, especially since some large A/Es try to claim
>> they can do it all when sometimes they would be better off , or the
>> project would be better off, subcontracting certain parts of expertise.
>> Doesn't Canada have small business setasides? I actually wish the US had
>> micro business setasides to keep small firms in actions, especially tiny
>> minority and tiny women owned (or both or all). I really think that
>> architectural vision is enhanced when there are lots of happy helping
>> hands, so to speak.
> USA had a WAM (Women and Minority) program for small firms up to a few
> years ago (may still be running) The firm I was last at was minority
> (chinese) owned and got a lot of government jobs. I was the token WASP ;-)
> EDS

Did you get to sit in the front or back row of the company picture?



Posted by EDS on November 19, 2007, 8:40 pm

>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Bulatovich wrote:
>>>
>>>>> A new sense of the old American Public Works Program would help, too.
>>>>> What's the situation in Canada?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>From my perspective, competitions are not for small (one man) practices
>>>>for practical reasons, unless you married well. Public work is done by
>>>>various levels of governments, and they vary in how receptive they are
>>>>in giving work to small practices:
>>>>
>>>>The Feds are not friendly at all. They wear belts and suspenders.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I rather like suspenders, when the are red or bright green or otherwise
>>> scream.
>>>
>>>>The Province, as I understand it, is pretty good about spreading around
>>>>the work, though I've never bid on any myself. I've been meaning to give
>>>>it a try, as one of my current clients use to be a big wig at the agency
>>>>that doles out the work, and he could hold my hand though the process,
>>>>but it's relatively uninteresting to me so I never do it.
>>>>
>>> I rather like the patriotic aspect of federal or local work.
>>>
>>>>The municipalities are highly political, and, blind competition or not,
>>>>the staff know the work of their friends, and the staff pick the juries
>>>>who also know the work of their friends...We're starting to get a bland
>>>>sameness to public work that a colleague has dubbed, "Beaver Modern."
>>>
>>> Have any examples you can steer us all to view? Hard to get a concept.
>>>
>>>>This has led to a race to hire name brand foreigners selling 'sizzle' on
>>>>purple stilts, or crumpled aluminum trainwrecks overhanging the public
>>>>realm, where the commissions are by semi-private institutions.
>>>>
>>>
>>> My most unfave was what I call the neobrutalists....
>>>
>>>>For some, a more worrisome local trend has been the bundling of projects
>>>>so that you have to be big to do a small thing, because they'll only
>>>>give out small things out in clumps, or attached to big things. There
>>>>are billions about to be spent here over the next few years so there is
>>>>a feeding frenzy now going on with big firms eating other big firms to
>>>>become bigger firms so they can handle all this work, and American firms
>>>>are buying up mid-sized firms to get a foothold in the province. Pity
>>>>the employees after it's all over....
>>>>
>>>
>>> The bundling aspect is bad, especially since some large A/Es try to
>>> claim they can do it all when sometimes they would be better off , or
>>> the project would be better off, subcontracting certain parts of
>>> expertise.
>>> Doesn't Canada have small business setasides? I actually wish the US
>>> had micro business setasides to keep small firms in actions, especially
>>> tiny minority and tiny women owned (or both or all). I really think
>>> that architectural vision is enhanced when there are lots of happy
>>> helping hands, so to speak.
>> USA had a WAM (Women and Minority) program for small firms up to a few
>> years ago (may still be running) The firm I was last at was minority
>> (chinese) owned and got a lot of government jobs. I was the token WASP
>> ;-)
>> EDS
>
> Did you get to sit in the front or back row of the company picture?
The back. I was the tallest ;-)



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