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Floorplan Input Sanbar 03-30-2008
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Posted by RicodJour on March 31, 2008, 7:59 pm
On Mar 31, 5:39 pm, "Pierre Levesque"
>
> Except that the drwing shows stair DN... hope the guy and his family are
> all pygmies...

Whelp, that's a new one on me. I saw the ceiling elevation and
stopped looking as EDS summed up my feelings on the matter - let the
designer do what they're paid for. I've never seen a stair to a
basement take center stage in a foyer. It does open up opportunities
for entering a foyer at the upper level and having the space open
downwards, but there's none of that going on.

Question still remains, why ask about a 16' ceiling when the drawings
indicate 14'?

R

Posted by Ralph Hertle on April 1, 2008, 1:29 pm
Barry:

Sanbar wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm trying to integrate my 16' high foyer with the 12' areas around it. I
> think a hard drop from 16' to 12' going into the kitchen area may look a
> little harsh. The area over the stairway is open which means we have to come
> up with a way to design the ceiling to get a nice flow from 16' to 12'.
>
> http://lewismediagroup.com/ads/Floor%20Plan%20Mar%2008.pdf
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Barry
>
>



That's a nicely drawn Floor Plan.

You would benefit by a Reflected Ceiling Plan. A composite RCP would
show all ceiling heights, features, openings, skylights, door and window
headers, air control devices, sprinklers, lighting fixtures, electrical
switching/dimmer controls, circuit lines, and possibly paint and finish
materials.

A floor plan is for the floor and walls.

Ralph Hertle


Posted by Edgar on April 1, 2008, 4:07 pm
>
>> Barry:
>>
>> Sanbar wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I'm trying to integrate my 16' high foyer with the 12' areas around it.
>>> I think a hard drop from 16' to 12' going into the kitchen area may look
>>> a little harsh. The area over the stairway is open which means we have
>>> to come up with a way to design the ceiling to get a nice flow from 16'
>>> to 12'.
>>>
>>> http://lewismediagroup.com/ads/Floor%20Plan%20Mar%2008.pdf
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Barry
>>
>>
>>
>> That's a nicely drawn Floor Plan.
>>
>> You would benefit by a Reflected Ceiling Plan. A composite RCP would show
>> all ceiling heights, features, openings, skylights, door and window
>> headers, air control devices, sprinklers, lighting fixtures, electrical
>> switching/dimmer controls, circuit lines, and possibly paint and finish
>> materials.
>>
>> A floor plan is for the floor and walls.
>>
>> Ralph Hertle
>
> Why is it called a *reflected* ceiling plan?
>

I think it's because it is what the ceiling looks like as you would see it
if the floor was a mirror.

--
Edgar



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Posted by Edgar on April 1, 2008, 6:42 pm
>
>>>
>>>> Barry:
>>>>
>>>> Sanbar wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to integrate my 16' high foyer with the 12' areas around
>>>>> it. I think a hard drop from 16' to 12' going into the kitchen area
>>>>> may look a little harsh. The area over the stairway is open which
>>>>> means we have to come up with a way to design the ceiling to get a
>>>>> nice flow from 16' to 12'.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://lewismediagroup.com/ads/Floor%20Plan%20Mar%2008.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Barry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's a nicely drawn Floor Plan.
>>>>
>>>> You would benefit by a Reflected Ceiling Plan. A composite RCP would
>>>> show all ceiling heights, features, openings, skylights, door and
>>>> window headers, air control devices, sprinklers, lighting fixtures,
>>>> electrical switching/dimmer controls, circuit lines, and possibly paint
>>>> and finish materials.
>>>>
>>>> A floor plan is for the floor and walls.
>>>>
>>>> Ralph Hertle
>>>
>>> Why is it called a *reflected* ceiling plan?
>>>
>>
>> I think it's because it is what the ceiling looks like as you would see
>> it if the floor was a mirror.
>
> Gets confusing, to the unnitiated.
> In other words, the ceiling plan is in *plan* view, the way I've always
> drawn them.
> In other-other words, a floorplan looks like it does if it is reflected in
> a mirrored ceiling?
> Ralphs way would certainly clear things up, but a well drawn floorplan
> would do that as well.
> I only do ceiling plans on really complicated ceilings, like when there
> are coffers, trays, vaults, step up/downs, etc. that tend to clutter up a
> standard floorplan.
> In complex plans I seperate out the dimensions from the notes and make 2
> floorplans, 1 is called Dimensional Floorplan (dimensions only) and the
> other is called Schematic Floorplan (notes and other riff-raff).
>

I work with Reflected Ceiling drawings all the time. In schools, the
lighting layout and mechanical stuff is pretty critical and needs to be all
mapped out. Not too bad if it is in a house where there may be only one
light to a ceiling, but important when you have 5 rows of 6 banks of light.
We also tend to use a lot of soffits in places like the admin areas. This
stuff is probably more taken care of by some sort of electrical plan (as I
remember when I did houses).

Basically, yes, the ceiling is drawn exactly as the plan view is drawn, but
as you are looking down onto the plan, you are really looking up at the
ceiling. If you were to draw everything as if you were actually looking up,
everything would be reversed, thus it is reflected so it looks the same as
the plan.

--
Edgar



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Posted by RicodJour on April 1, 2008, 9:09 pm
wrote:
>
> Basically, yes, the ceiling is drawn exactly as the plan view is drawn, but
> as you are looking down onto the plan, you are really looking up at the
> ceiling. If you were to draw everything as if you were actually looking up,
> everything would be reversed, thus it is reflected so it looks the same as
> the plan.

Does that mean that the ceiling fans spin backwards? ;)

R

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