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Posted by Troppo on January 10, 2008, 3:49 pm
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>>
>>> Michael Bulatovich wrote:
>>>> http://climatedebatedaily.com/
>>>
>>> Spend a little time at http://www.climateaudit.org and you'll
>>> quickly realize that there is much of the stuff listed under
>>> "Climate Debate Daily" "Calls to action" is severely flawed.
>>
>> Have been there.
>>
>>> Also much of it isn't climate related, but based on zero growth
>>> theories.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.nationalpost.com/most_popular/story.html?id=164002
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>> This is more or less my short term position on the issue. I have
>> quite a bit of confidence in homo sapiens sapiens' ability to adapt,
>> but I still grieve for the irretrievable losses. My gut tells me we
>> are at least partially responsible....
>>
>
> THe problem is that Global Warming and Pollution have become
> interchangeable. They aren't - related, yes; interchangeable, no.
>
> There is no doubt whatsoever that pollution causes damage, not only to
> other species, but to humans as well. Dealing with pollution, trying
> to reduce it, is important to human health, as well as to trying to
> preserve some semblance of environmental balance, and natural beauty.
>
> If we decreased pollution, one can argue that it would also help slow
> or decrease global warming, at least, whatever part of it that is
> anthropogenic.
>
> What pisses me off is idiots who whine and kvetch that "global warming
> is a myth!" and then use that as an excuse to crap up as much of the
> environment as they possibly can. Regardless of whether one "beleives
> in" global warming, the fact is that pollution is *known* to be
> detrimental to the health and well-being of biological entities
> (including humans). And there are prob. peoblems from it that haven't
> yet been discovered.
>
> The whole global warming thing aside, what the heck is wrong with
> reducing pollution, when inmproving the environemnt would improve our
> (and our descendents') own health and well-being? That's what I don't
> comprehend - why people blither and yowl as though pollution is great.
>
>
I concur. I live in a place where the predominant airflow comes off the
Coral Sea and hence the South Pacific. Should be the freshest air
anywhere. No one out there dumping shit in the atmosphere eh? On the
other hand, The place is in danger of becoming a polluters paradise. They
come to town, get out the idiot meter, and it goes off the dial. There is
a strong possibility that nickel and other ores are regularly being
spilled on arrival at the port, along with airborn pollution from
transport and processing. There is a problem of black "dust" which is a
complex cocktail of lead, zinc, silicas and moulds. The mould is probably
tricodesmium, naturally occurring as 'red tides' but maybe being modified
by the brew ?. With the coastal drift, everyone gets a bit, and the main
city water containment is downwind of one of the processing plants -
which is known to release cadmium ...
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