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Hardie board/shingle Michael Bulatovich 02-27-2008
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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on February 27, 2008, 7:41 pm

>>
>>
>>
>> >> Anyone seen these products after the factory paint has failed?
>>
>> > Is that like Hardie har har board? :)
>>
>> <Jude adjusts sweaty collar>
>> TAP! TAP! TAP! Is this thing on?
>>
>> > Seriously, though, I thought it was called Hardiboard or Hardiplank.
>> > Am I
>> > wrong?
>>
>> The products are named like that. The company's is a family name, I
>> think.
>> They also make a shingle that's very nice for traditional work (locally
>> ~$9.50/sq.ft.), and a big 'panel'.
>>
>> The question was, **how** does the finish eventually fail?
>
> Same as anything else - through lack of maintenance. Water gets under
> the finish and starts blowing off the paint due to vapor pressure.
> The Hardie line of siding products take and hold paint beautifully.
> The paint job will last far longer than if on wood. The big caveat is
> that the stuff absorbs water and all cut ends must be sealed with
> paint. If you take care during the installation you can expect to get
> about double the life of a paint job. The stuff is easy to install.
> There are shears that are great for cutting the fiber cement stuff
> without raising god awful amounts of dust.

Thanks for that, but in asking "How does it fail?" what I meant was, "What
is the mode of finish failure?"
I.E., flaking or peeling or powdering or just fading? IOW, what will it look
like when it has failed? Is the color beneath the paint a Portland grey?



Posted by Edgar on February 27, 2008, 8:10 pm
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >> Anyone seen these products after the factory paint has failed?
>>>
>>> > Is that like Hardie har har board? :)
>>>
>>> <Jude adjusts sweaty collar>
>>> TAP! TAP! TAP! Is this thing on?
>>>
>>> > Seriously, though, I thought it was called Hardiboard or Hardiplank.
>>> > Am I
>>> > wrong?
>>>
>>> The products are named like that. The company's is a family name, I
>>> think.
>>> They also make a shingle that's very nice for traditional work (locally
>>> ~$9.50/sq.ft.), and a big 'panel'.
>>>
>>> The question was, **how** does the finish eventually fail?
>>
>> Same as anything else - through lack of maintenance. Water gets under
>> the finish and starts blowing off the paint due to vapor pressure.
>> The Hardie line of siding products take and hold paint beautifully.
>> The paint job will last far longer than if on wood. The big caveat is
>> that the stuff absorbs water and all cut ends must be sealed with
>> paint. If you take care during the installation you can expect to get
>> about double the life of a paint job. The stuff is easy to install.
>> There are shears that are great for cutting the fiber cement stuff
>> without raising god awful amounts of dust.
>
> Thanks for that, but in asking "How does it fail?" what I meant was, "What
> is the mode of finish failure?"
> I.E., flaking or peeling or powdering or just fading? IOW, what will it
> look like when it has failed? Is the color beneath the paint a Portland
> grey?
>

I was thinking the paint for certain colors was integrated.

--
Edgar



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Posted by RicodJour on February 27, 2008, 10:02 pm
>
>
>
>
>
> >> >> Anyone seen these products after the factory paint has failed?
>
> >> > Is that like Hardie har har board? :)
>
> >> <Jude adjusts sweaty collar>
> >> TAP! TAP! TAP! Is this thing on?
>
> >> > Seriously, though, I thought it was called Hardiboard or Hardiplank.
> >> > Am I
> >> > wrong?
>
> >> The products are named like that. The company's is a family name, I
> >> think.
> >> They also make a shingle that's very nice for traditional work (locally
> >> ~$9.50/sq.ft.), and a big 'panel'.
>
> >> The question was, **how** does the finish eventually fail?
>
> > Same as anything else - through lack of maintenance. Water gets under
> > the finish and starts blowing off the paint due to vapor pressure.
> > The Hardie line of siding products take and hold paint beautifully.
> > The paint job will last far longer than if on wood. The big caveat is
> > that the stuff absorbs water and all cut ends must be sealed with
> > paint. If you take care during the installation you can expect to get
> > about double the life of a paint job. The stuff is easy to install.
> > There are shears that are great for cutting the fiber cement stuff
> > without raising god awful amounts of dust.
>
> Thanks for that, but in asking "How does it fail?" what I meant was, "What
> is the mode of finish failure?"
> I.E., flaking or peeling or powdering or just fading? IOW, what will it look
> like when it has failed? Is the color beneath the paint a Portland grey?

Unless you use something other than latex paint, it'll peel. Solid
body stain doesn't peel - it wears/leaches away. The fiber cement is
regulation cement color.

R

Posted by Michael Bulatovich on February 28, 2008, 8:31 am

>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >> >> Anyone seen these products after the factory paint has failed?
>>
>> >> > Is that like Hardie har har board? :)
>>
>> >> <Jude adjusts sweaty collar>
>> >> TAP! TAP! TAP! Is this thing on?
>>
>> >> > Seriously, though, I thought it was called Hardiboard or Hardiplank.
>> >> > Am I
>> >> > wrong?
>>
>> >> The products are named like that. The company's is a family name, I
>> >> think.
>> >> They also make a shingle that's very nice for traditional work
>> >> (locally
>> >> ~$9.50/sq.ft.), and a big 'panel'.
>>
>> >> The question was, **how** does the finish eventually fail?
>>
>> > Same as anything else - through lack of maintenance. Water gets under
>> > the finish and starts blowing off the paint due to vapor pressure.
>> > The Hardie line of siding products take and hold paint beautifully.
>> > The paint job will last far longer than if on wood. The big caveat is
>> > that the stuff absorbs water and all cut ends must be sealed with
>> > paint. If you take care during the installation you can expect to get
>> > about double the life of a paint job. The stuff is easy to install.
>> > There are shears that are great for cutting the fiber cement stuff
>> > without raising god awful amounts of dust.
>>
>> Thanks for that, but in asking "How does it fail?" what I meant was,
>> "What
>> is the mode of finish failure?"
>> I.E., flaking or peeling or powdering or just fading? IOW, what will it
>> look
>> like when it has failed? Is the color beneath the paint a Portland grey?
>
> Unless you use something other than latex paint, it'll peel. Solid
> body stain doesn't peel - it wears/leaches away. The fiber cement is
> regulation cement color.

Thanks. That's what I suspected. Not the best mode of failure....
--


MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca



Posted by RicodJour on February 28, 2008, 2:37 pm
>
> > Unless you use something other than latex paint, it'll peel. Solid
> > body stain doesn't peel - it wears/leaches away. The fiber cement is
> > regulation cement color.
>
> Thanks. That's what I suspected. Not the best mode of failure....

? As opposed to what? Rotting wood? Let me list all of the
maintenance free sidings:





Hmmm, short list. Maybe siding products with no drawback will do
better:





I guess not.

What exactly are you hoping for?

R

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