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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on February 28, 2008, 3:15 pm
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>> > Unless you use something other than latex paint, it'll peel. Solid
>> > body stain doesn't peel - it wears/leaches away. The fiber cement is
>> > regulation cement color.
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>> Thanks. That's what I suspected. Not the best mode of failure....
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> ? As opposed to what? Rotting wood? Let me list all of the
> maintenance free sidings:
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> Hmmm, short list. Maybe siding products with no drawback will do
> better:
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> I guess not.
>
> What exactly are you hoping for?
To understand how it wood fail ; ) Paint on aluminum tends to fail by going
powdery, but hangs on for a long time after it's failed. (Ever seen bare
aluminum siding?) Bare aluminum oxidizes to a fairly stable oxide coating.
Vinyl tends to fade, but since it's got 'through color' you don't see a
foreign color after failure, but a related color. After that, I'm not sure
what happens to vinyl.
Somebody else posted that fiber cement will 'crumble'. Any experience with
that?
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Posted by RicodJour on February 28, 2008, 10:07 pm
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> >> > Unless you use something other than latex paint, it'll peel. Solid
> >> > body stain doesn't peel - it wears/leaches away. The fiber cement is
> >> > regulation cement color.
>
> >> Thanks. That's what I suspected. Not the best mode of failure....
>
> > ? As opposed to what? Rotting wood? Let me list all of the
> > maintenance free sidings:
>
> > Hmmm, short list. Maybe siding products with no drawback will do
> > better:
>
> > I guess not.
>
> > What exactly are you hoping for?
>
> To understand how it wood fail ; ) Paint on aluminum tends to fail by going
> powdery, but hangs on for a long time after it's failed. (Ever seen bare
> aluminum siding?) Bare aluminum oxidizes to a fairly stable oxide coating.
> Vinyl tends to fade, but since it's got 'through color' you don't see a
> foreign color after failure, but a related color. After that, I'm not sure
> what happens to vinyl.
>
> Somebody else posted that fiber cement will 'crumble'. Any experience with
> that?
That poster said the stuff was _buried_. You're not supposed to bury
any type of siding, including brick, so that's a non-issue. I am
still not quite sure what you are looking for, Michael. It's a
painted siding. Painting requires maintenance and periodic renewal.
The Hardie stuff takes and holds paint far longer than wood. It's
durable. You won't find many complaints about it because there's not
much to complain about. If you don't want to paint, get a plastic
siding. It'll look like plastic and you'll be extremely limited in
your choice of colors.
The Hardipanel is a godsend if you like the look of stucco, but you
can't afford stucco and/or want to do it yourself. Covering the
exposed seams with Harditrim (or whatever it's called), and throwing
in a few extra pieces does a good job of imitating a half-timbered
look. As in everything, it's all in the details - construction
details, not esthetic details. If you install if correctly you'll
probably get eight years out of a paint job, depending on climate,
which is about double the life of painted wood.
R
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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on March 1, 2008, 5:12 pm
> That poster said the stuff was _buried_.
Actually, he said "be covered with moist organic material", not "buried."
That could happen at a roof-to-wall joint.
> You're not supposed to bury
> any type of siding, including brick, so that's a non-issue.<snip>
(Note that quoting of *your* posts is done in the usual manner?)
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Posted by RicodJour on March 2, 2008, 6:32 pm
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> > That poster said the stuff was _buried_.
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> Actually, he said "be covered with moist organic material", not "buried."
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> That could happen at a roof-to-wall joint.
That's still buried. No angels dance on the heads of my pins, thank
you.
> > You're not supposed to bury
> > any type of siding, including brick, so that's a non-issue.<snip>
>
> (Note that quoting of *your* posts is done in the usual manner?)
Thank you, I appreciate that. Consistency is a virtue and it's time
for you to come back into the fold.
R
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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on March 3, 2008, 8:59 am
RicodJour wrote:
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>>> That poster said the stuff was _buried_.
>>
>> Actually, he said "be covered with moist organic material", not
>> "buried."
>>
>> That could happen at a roof-to-wall joint.
>
> That's still buried. No angels dance on the heads of my pins, thank
> you.
>
>>> You're not supposed to bury
>>> any type of siding, including brick, so that's a non-issue.<snip>
>>
>> (Note that quoting of *your* posts is done in the usual manner?)
>
> Thank you, I appreciate that. Consistency is a virtue and it's time
> for you to come back into the fold.
I added the add-on suggested by Rusty. It seems to run a session of OE
inside itself, and takes care of the formatting issue, but seems to have
other little glitches in it, like not recognizing a hyperlink's tartget in a
post...not sure how long I'll stick with it...may go back to my equal signs.
Explanation is below, apparently the posters are set to "Plain Text, Quoted
Printable" format which helps for pretty-printing, but who prints NG posts?
SYMPTOMS
When you reply to or forward a message that was composed using "Plain Text,
Quoted Printable" format in Outlook Express, there is not a quote character
at the beginning of each line of text that is included from the message you
received.
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CAUSE
This is a side effect of the "Plain Text, Quoted Printable" format in the
message you received.
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MORE INFORMATION
Generally, you see a quote character (such as ">") on each line of the
message you are quoting. For this to work, there must be a <CR><LF> pair
(\r\n) at the end of each line.
When a message is sent using "Plain Text, Quoted Printable" format, an equal
sign is added to the end of the line to let the browser know that the line
continues. Therefore, there is only one quote character at the beginning of
each paragraph quoted.
The main purpose of "Plain Text, Quoted Printable" format is to allow for
line wrapping. When you send mail on the Internet, you can send only 80
characters on a line of text. To provide word-wrap capability, the lines are
packaged in "Plain Text, Quoted Printable" format. This ends each line with
an equal sign to indicate that it continues to the next line.
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