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How to find a local architect ++ 04-18-2008
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Posted by Pierre Levesque on April 19, 2008, 8:38 am

> Pierre Levesque wrote:
>>>
>>> EDS wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Call your local AIA. Every single AIA refers architects looking for
>>>>> your kind of work, however large, however small. You can request
>>>>> several names so you can get several perspectives.
>>>>>
>>>>> Galina.
>>>>>
>>>>> PS. Service magic is fine for finding a plumber, IF that plumber has
>>>>> a lot of verifiable references that aren't his/her relatives. But for
>>>>> a registered architect in good standing , use the AIA.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I disagree completely. There are many many good licensed Architects who
>>>> are not AIA members. I get requests in the mail and on line to join the
>>>> AIA every week (they must be hurting). I was a member for 4 years and
>>>> went to many meetings. Lots of pontificating by the blowhards and
>>>> little really done to help the Architect in the street. Expensive too.
>>>> I do subscribe to their magazine as $50 is a lot cheaper than $500+ for
>>>> Local plus AIA membership. Already the annual State required CE classes
>>>> are $450+ and the license is around $100. I'm alone and nobody pays my
>>>> way so they can have another AIA on the masthead.
>>>> EDS
>>>>
>>> I can see your points for going the RA [Registered Architect] route, but
>>> I was talking about the difference between using Service Magic for some
>>> guy who considers himself a "designer" and a registered architect, thus
>>> the AIA. How about starting an at cost non profit for RAs?
>>> In the unnecessary fees department, consider the NCARB certification.
>>> Why not just get reciprocity when you need it?
>>
>> That's another HUGE rip-off. $500.00 so that they can keep a file of
>> your record. unreal. Their claim is that once you have the NCARB
>> certification on record, reciprocity is an easy process between states
>> who allow reciprocity.
>>
>> But guess what, to get that cert, you need to jump through all sorts of
>> burning hoops to complete the application. Grades going back to
>> highschool, referral letters from employers and peers, stae registration
>> papers proving good standing and more.
>>
>> The alternative to getting certified? Obtaining reciprocity through the
>> state where you are applying directly through their state board, via
>> "professional credentials". The requirement? Identical to NCARB
>> requirements -- grades going back to highschool, referral letters from
>> employers and peers, state registration papers proving good standing.
>> The only difference? You got it. 500 bux in your pocket.
>
> Actually, I prefer the NCARB route. It may cost more $$$, but time is $$$
> and we've found it easy and relatively painless to use NCARB for our
> reciprocity needs.

I admit that if reciprocity is needed over multiple states that NCARB would
indeed facilitate the repeated application processes.



Posted by ++ on April 19, 2008, 8:26 pm


Pierre Levesque wrote:

>
>
>>Pierre Levesque wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>EDS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Call your local AIA. Every single AIA refers architects looking for
>>>>>>your kind of work, however large, however small. You can request
>>>>>>several names so you can get several perspectives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Galina.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>PS. Service magic is fine for finding a plumber, IF that plumber has
>>>>>>a lot of verifiable references that aren't his/her relatives. But for
>>>>>>a registered architect in good standing , use the AIA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>I disagree completely. There are many many good licensed Architects who
>>>>>are not AIA members. I get requests in the mail and on line to join the
>>>>>AIA every week (they must be hurting). I was a member for 4 years and
>>>>>went to many meetings. Lots of pontificating by the blowhards and
>>>>>little really done to help the Architect in the street. Expensive too.
>>>>>I do subscribe to their magazine as $50 is a lot cheaper than $500+ for
>>>>>Local plus AIA membership. Already the annual State required CE classes
>>>>>are $450+ and the license is around $100. I'm alone and nobody pays my
>>>>>way so they can have another AIA on the masthead.
>>>>>EDS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>I can see your points for going the RA [Registered Architect] route, but
>>>>I was talking about the difference between using Service Magic for some
>>>>guy who considers himself a "designer" and a registered architect, thus
>>>>the AIA. How about starting an at cost non profit for RAs?
>>>>In the unnecessary fees department, consider the NCARB certification.
>>>>Why not just get reciprocity when you need it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>That's another HUGE rip-off. $500.00 so that they can keep a file of
>>>your record. unreal. Their claim is that once you have the NCARB
>>>certification on record, reciprocity is an easy process between states
>>>who allow reciprocity.
>>>
>>>But guess what, to get that cert, you need to jump through all sorts of
>>>burning hoops to complete the application. Grades going back to
>>>highschool, referral letters from employers and peers, stae registration
>>>papers proving good standing and more.
>>>
>>>The alternative to getting certified? Obtaining reciprocity through the
>>>state where you are applying directly through their state board, via
>>>"professional credentials". The requirement? Identical to NCARB
>>>requirements -- grades going back to highschool, referral letters from
>>>employers and peers, state registration papers proving good standing.
>>>The only difference? You got it. 500 bux in your pocket.
>>>
>>>
>>Actually, I prefer the NCARB route. It may cost more $$$, but time is $$$
>>and we've found it easy and relatively painless to use NCARB for our
>>reciprocity needs.
>>
>>
>
>I admit that if reciprocity is needed over multiple states that NCARB would
>indeed facilitate the repeated application processes.
>

Yep, fer shure, but it is sometimes better to get the job then get
reciprocity. Sometimes boards get efficient if they know there's a
pressing engagement

>
>
>
>
>
>


Posted by Chuck News on April 20, 2008, 4:09 am

> Pierre Levesque wrote:
>>>
>>> EDS wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Call your local AIA. Every single AIA refers architects looking for
>>>>> your kind of work, however large, however small. You can request
>>>>> several names so you can get several perspectives.
>>>>>
>>>>> Galina.
>>>>>
>>>>> PS. Service magic is fine for finding a plumber, IF that plumber has
>>>>> a lot of verifiable references that aren't his/her relatives. But for
>>>>> a registered architect in good standing , use the AIA.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I disagree completely. There are many many good licensed Architects who
>>>> are not AIA members. I get requests in the mail and on line to join the
>>>> AIA every week (they must be hurting). I was a member for 4 years and
>>>> went to many meetings. Lots of pontificating by the blowhards and
>>>> little really done to help the Architect in the street. Expensive too.
>>>> I do subscribe to their magazine as $50 is a lot cheaper than $500+ for
>>>> Local plus AIA membership. Already the annual State required CE classes
>>>> are $450+ and the license is around $100. I'm alone and nobody pays my
>>>> way so they can have another AIA on the masthead.
>>>> EDS
>>>>
>>> I can see your points for going the RA [Registered Architect] route, but
>>> I was talking about the difference between using Service Magic for some
>>> guy who considers himself a "designer" and a registered architect, thus
>>> the AIA. How about starting an at cost non profit for RAs?
>>> In the unnecessary fees department, consider the NCARB certification.
>>> Why not just get reciprocity when you need it?
>>
>> That's another HUGE rip-off. $500.00 so that they can keep a file of
>> your record. unreal. Their claim is that once you have the NCARB
>> certification on record, reciprocity is an easy process between states
>> who allow reciprocity.
>>
>> But guess what, to get that cert, you need to jump through all sorts of
>> burning hoops to complete the application. Grades going back to
>> highschool, referral letters from employers and peers, stae registration
>> papers proving good standing and more.
>>
>> The alternative to getting certified? Obtaining reciprocity through the
>> state where you are applying directly through their state board, via
>> "professional credentials". The requirement? Identical to NCARB
>> requirements -- grades going back to highschool, referral letters from
>> employers and peers, state registration papers proving good standing.
>> The only difference? You got it. 500 bux in your pocket.
>
> Actually, I prefer the NCARB route. It may cost more $$$, but time is $$$
> and we've found it easy and relatively painless to use NCARB for our
> reciprocity needs.

Most people just don't get it. The AIA ( American Institute of Architects )
is a professional organization similar to ASCE ( American Society of Civil
Engineers ), SEA ( Structural Engineers Association ) which are
professional originations for engineers. What is necessary is to be
licensed to practice architecture in the state or states you have an
architectural practice and will be the architect of record ( this is a legal
record of responsibility ).
In order to be licensed architects in a state you have to take the states
professional exam and you can't practice until this exam is passed. To be
licensed in another state you can do it by reciprocity which proves that you
have passed the requirements in your primary state. You have to have this
legally to be named/called as an architect. If you don't have this you will
be only a architectural designer of which can not belong to the AIA and are
limited to the types of buildings you design.

CID...


Posted by 3D Peruna on April 20, 2008, 8:29 pm
Chuck News wrote:

> Most people just don't get it.

Who are you talking to?

The AIA ( American Institute of
> Architects ) is a professional organization similar to ASCE ( American
> Society of Civil Engineers ), SEA ( Structural Engineers Association )
> which are professional originations for engineers. What is necessary is
> to be licensed to practice architecture in the state or states you have
> an architectural practice and will be the architect of record ( this is
> a legal record of responsibility ).

Duh.

> In order to be licensed architects in a state you have to take the
> states professional exam and you can't practice until this exam is
> passed.

I'm pretty darn sure all states use the same exam. Some may add
specific sections, but the basic exam is the same. NCARB or not.

To be licensed in another state you can do it by reciprocity
> which proves that you have passed the requirements in your primary
> state. You have to have this legally to be named/called as an
> architect. If you don't have this you will be only a architectural
> designer of which can not belong to the AIA and are limited to the types
> of buildings you design.

What's the problem? I'm pretty sure most people get this, not as you
said, most people don't.

Posted by Chuck News on April 20, 2008, 3:30 am

>
>
>
>> Call your local AIA. Every single AIA refers architects looking for your
>> kind of work, however large, however small. You can request several
>> names so you can get several perspectives.
>>
>> Galina.
>>
>> PS. Service magic is fine for finding a plumber, IF that plumber has a
>> lot of verifiable references that aren't his/her relatives. But for a
>> registered architect in good standing , use the AIA.
>>
>
> I disagree completely. There are many many good licensed Architects who
> are not AIA members. I get requests in the mail and on line to join the
> AIA every week (they must be hurting). I was a member for 4 years and went
> to many meetings. Lots of pontificating by the blowhards and little really
> done to help the Architect in the street. Expensive too. I do subscribe to
> their magazine as $50 is a lot cheaper than $500+ for Local plus AIA
> membership. Already the annual State required CE classes are $450+ and the
> license is around $100. I'm alone and nobody pays my way so they can have
> another AIA on the masthead.
> EDS
>
>

EDS You are right. There are many good architects that don't belong to the
AIA. I am one of those.
I get the requests in the mail and on line also quite often. I suppose that
the other architects that don't belong also receive the same.
Not only do you have to pay for the national membership but you also have to
add the local fee also. Not to mention the cost of each monthly meeting.

CID...


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