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Identify House Style, Please Kami Kitty 12-26-2007
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Posted by ++ on December 28, 2007, 2:08 am


Kami Kitty wrote:

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>>OK, you could change the topic to "Can the Design of this House
>>Tragedy be Fixed ?"
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>Can it?
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Of course. Top three cheap facade moves (without looking at photo):
Provide pillars and engaged pillar for entrance, put two double hungs
beside originals in dormers, center entrance door


Posted by ++ on December 26, 2007, 9:55 pm


Kami Kitty wrote:

>I need an expert. Or semi-expert. Consensus maybe?
>
>

"Quirky Remuddled Buncottage"

"Remuddled" is a definition term first coined by the Old House Journal
in its premier year. I cannot remember the author of the term (or it may
have been consensus of the entire editorial staff. It is one of those
terms that has genesis in common sense and was coined by many people,
but the Old House Journal is famous for having popularized contests in
having the best of remuddling end pictorially in its issues. In this
case, the house may never have been remuddled at all - It may have been
designed as we see it, and only appears as if someone put siding over
the front of the oversized dormers in what would otherwise have been a
"Cape Cod" and then added "interest" by placing single double hung
windows off center in each. Buncottage is a term I coined for use in
my discussions of the throwing together the worst nostalgic elements of
cottage architecture in an inauthentic way, an elision of the terms
bunco with the word cottage. Cottage as a term is embracing a large
range of design options but usually denotes something livable and family
oriented in size, not ostentatious and large. This is not a modern
buncottage as the double car garage is not the prominant frontal
element, but recessed, rambler style, from the front facade. Another
surprising askew elements is the proportionally thin Victorian turned
carved porch posts used to hold the entrance dormer which is the same
size and shape as the oversized roof dormers.

>My sister and I are in a bit of disagreement about what style this
>house is, if any particular style at all. Any input is appreciated.
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>http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?90b5eff3f7.jpg
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>Kami
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Posted by Kami on December 26, 2007, 10:14 pm

>
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> Kami Kitty wrote:
>
>>I need an expert. Or semi-expert. Consensus maybe?
>>
>>
>
> "Quirky Remuddled Buncottage"
>
> "Remuddled" is a definition term first coined by the Old House
> Journal in its premier year. I cannot remember the author of the
> term (or it may have been consensus of the entire editorial staff.
> It is one of those terms that has genesis in common sense and was
> coined by many people, but the Old House Journal is famous for
> having popularized contests in having the best of remuddling end
> pictorially in its issues. In this case, the house may never have
> been remuddled at all - It may have been designed as we see it,
> and only appears as if someone put siding over the front of the
> oversized dormers in what would otherwise have been a "Cape Cod"
> and then added "interest" by placing single double hung windows
> off center in each. Buncottage is a term I coined for use in my
> discussions of the throwing together the worst nostalgic elements
> of cottage architecture in an inauthentic way, an elision of the
> terms bunco with the word cottage. Cottage as a term is embracing
> a large range of design options but usually denotes something
> livable and family oriented in size, not ostentatious and large.
> This is not a modern buncottage as the double car garage is not
> the prominant frontal element, but recessed, rambler style, from
> the front facade. Another surprising askew elements is the
> proportionally thin Victorian turned carved porch posts used to
> hold the entrance dormer which is the same size and shape as the
> oversized roof dormers.
>

Interesting analysis. I agree that the spindly little post not only
fail to add anything, but detract from it. I was thinking in some
way it maybe wanted to be a little bit tudor, but got fearful of
trying post and beam. The house is for sale and we got inside. I
though there was a reason for the dormer windows being off center,
but there isn't. There is a small closet in each of those rooms in
the corner of the blank section, but there is still wall space
enough that if they had shoved the windor over more, while it would
have met the corner inside the room, it would be centered on the
outside.

If you want "remuddled," you should know that the "flipper" (it *is*
a flipping victim) attempted to arch the three downstairs open
doorways in an attempt at 40s bungalow. It would look okay if they
matched. They were done by a drunk relative at best.

Nevertheless, say I'm tasteless, but I kind of like the house the
way you like an ugly puppy. It certainly provide conversation and,
believe it or not, is the best looking house on the block. The rest
ARE old ramblers, circa 1960. The fireplace in the family room with
the built-in desk complete with gingerbread scrolly edging give that
away.

So what do you really think it was TRYING to be? Cape Cod? With
brick?

Kami


--
Don't try to be different. Just be good. To be good is different
enough. -- Arthur Freed

Posted by ++ on December 27, 2007, 1:54 am


Kami wrote:

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>
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>>Kami Kitty wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I need an expert. Or semi-expert. Consensus maybe?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>"Quirky Remuddled Buncottage"
>>
>>"Remuddled" is a definition term first coined by the Old House
>>Journal in its premier year. I cannot remember the author of the
>>term (or it may have been consensus of the entire editorial staff.
>>It is one of those terms that has genesis in common sense and was
>>coined by many people, but the Old House Journal is famous for
>>having popularized contests in having the best of remuddling end
>>pictorially in its issues. In this case, the house may never have
>>been remuddled at all - It may have been designed as we see it,
>>and only appears as if someone put siding over the front of the
>>oversized dormers in what would otherwise have been a "Cape Cod"
>>and then added "interest" by placing single double hung windows
>>off center in each. Buncottage is a term I coined for use in my
>>discussions of the throwing together the worst nostalgic elements
>>of cottage architecture in an inauthentic way, an elision of the
>>terms bunco with the word cottage. Cottage as a term is embracing
>>a large range of design options but usually denotes something
>>livable and family oriented in size, not ostentatious and large.
>>This is not a modern buncottage as the double car garage is not
>>the prominant frontal element, but recessed, rambler style, from
>>the front facade. Another surprising askew elements is the
>>proportionally thin Victorian turned carved porch posts used to
>>hold the entrance dormer which is the same size and shape as the
>>oversized roof dormers.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Interesting analysis. I agree that the spindly little post not only
>fail to add anything, but detract from it. I was thinking in some
>way it maybe wanted to be a little bit tudor, but got fearful of
>trying post and beam. The house is for sale and we got inside. I
>though there was a reason for the dormer windows being off center,
>but there isn't. There is a small closet in each of those rooms in
>the corner of the blank section, but there is still wall space
>enough that if they had shoved the windor over more, while it would
>have met the corner inside the room, it would be centered on the
>outside.
>
>If you want "remuddled," you should know that the "flipper" (it *is*
>a flipping victim) attempted to arch the three downstairs open
>doorways in an attempt at 40s bungalow. It would look okay if they
>matched. They were done by a drunk relative at best.
>
>Nevertheless, say I'm tasteless, but I kind of like the house the
>way you like an ugly puppy. It certainly provide conversation and,
>believe it or not, is the best looking house on the block. The rest
>ARE old ramblers, circa 1960. The fireplace in the family room with
>the built-in desk complete with gingerbread scrolly edging give that
>away.
>
>So what do you really think it was TRYING to be? Cape Cod? With
>brick?
>
>
I read Don's statement after I wrote in answer to your message and I
gotta agree with him - it is just painfully bad in just about every
element from the jarring juxtaposition of the two different roof pitches
to the way the entrance is denigrated to ...I already wrote above that
it is trying to be a cape cod (which is what ramblers are called when
they have that roof pitch although their resemblance to the originals on
cape cod are tenuous).You could maybe call it a Cape Coddler

>Kami
>
>
>
>


Posted by HVS on December 27, 2007, 3:24 am
On 27 Dec 2007, Kami wrote

>
>>
>>
>> Kami Kitty wrote:
>>
>>> I need an expert. Or semi-expert. Consensus maybe?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> "Quirky Remuddled Buncottage"
>>
>> "Remuddled" is a definition term first coined by the Old House
>> Journal in its premier year. I cannot remember the author of
>> the term (or it may have been consensus of the entire editorial
>> staff. It is one of those terms that has genesis in common
>> sense and was coined by many people, but the Old House Journal
>> is famous for having popularized contests in having the best of
>> remuddling end pictorially in its issues. In this case, the
>> house may never have been remuddled at all - It may have been
>> designed as we see it, and only appears as if someone put
>> siding over the front of the oversized dormers in what would
>> otherwise have been a "Cape Cod" and then added "interest" by
>> placing single double hung windows off center in each.
>> Buncottage is a term I coined for use in my discussions of the
>> throwing together the worst nostalgic elements of cottage
>> architecture in an inauthentic way, an elision of the terms
>> bunco with the word cottage. Cottage as a term is embracing
>> a large range of design options but usually denotes something
>> livable and family oriented in size, not ostentatious and
>> large. This is not a modern buncottage as the double car
>> garage is not the prominant frontal element, but recessed,
>> rambler style, from the front facade. Another surprising
>> askew elements is the proportionally thin Victorian turned
>> carved porch posts used to hold the entrance dormer which is
>> the same size and shape as the oversized roof dormers.
>>
>
> Interesting analysis. I agree that the spindly little post not
> only fail to add anything, but detract from it. I was thinking
> in some way it maybe wanted to be a little bit tudor, but got
> fearful of trying post and beam.

-snip-

> So what do you really think it was TRYING to be? Cape Cod?
> With brick?

I think the problem is that whoever built the poor benighted thing
basically didn't have much idea of what stylistic elements are
supposed to go with what style (let alone any sense of proportion
or balance).

So trying to get into their mind to put a stylistic label on it is
a bit futile -- I don't think it really knew or knows what it's
trying to be, other than a bit of this and a bit of that. The only
ones that fit are humorous or derogatory -- the suggested
"remuddled" or "Cape Cobbled" work for me.

As the others have said, it's actually quite painful and sad to
look at. (I even hate the brick they've used.)

--
Cheers, Harvey
Architectural and topographical historian



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