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Interesting Structural Load ++ 02-15-2008
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Posted by Kris Krieger on February 17, 2008, 2:11 am

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>>>>> http://www.ntu.edu.sg/OFPM/About+Us/Development+Division/adm.htm
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>>>> I think I like it, excpet that they're using what lloks like a mown
>>>> lawn. IMO, it'd be better aesthetically to use native grasses and
>>>> leave it unmown, making it an actual habitat - I don't know whether
>>>> that is practical, tho' (possibility of burrowing critters, harder
>>>> to see potential/developing problems in the roof, other problems?)
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>>> Don't know why but that thing made me think of Pierres twisty house.
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>> I can't recall - and I lost the link(s) =:-(
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> It was the one in Bethel, NY that burned last week.

<!!!!>

*That* was Pierre's? Arrgh, well I am hugely embarassed for not
realizing that... Wow, that *does* suck...


> In the middle the whole thing did a 90 degree twist (or was it 180???)
> horizontally.
> Wild stuff.

I have a vage recollection of the pics. I'm kind of stunned that that's
the one that burned. I thought it used a lot fo concrete and steel - how
the heck does something liek that burn? Doesn't it take, like, aviation
fuel or soemthing to get a fire hot enough to do that?


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>> I likethe idea, tho', of a reinforced roof serving as a "natural
>> space" - first off, IIRC, it hlowers heating/cooling costs, and
>> second, it helps replace, to at least some degree, the ecosystem lost
>> when the area was first turned over to human pursuits. At the very
>> least, it's one more bit of air-purification ;)
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>> ((I think I was far too young when I first read about, and saw
>> artist's renditions of, the Hanging Gardens of Babylon...))
>>
>> Another thing I've long liked is the idea used in arid climates of
>> using the roof as a summertime bedroom.
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Posted by ++ on February 16, 2008, 7:23 pm


Kris Krieger wrote:

>dnY10D9lynCvanZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@rcn.net:
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>>http://www.ntu.edu.sg/OFPM/About+Us/Development+Division/adm.htm
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>I think I like it, excpet that they're using what lloks like a mown lawn.
>IMO, it'd be better aesthetically to use native grasses and leave it
>unmown, making it an actual habitat - I don't know whether that is
>practical, tho' (possibility of burrowing critters, harder to see
>potential/developing problems in the roof, other problems?)
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>
Similar to your thinking on the grass, I kept thinking - how boring!
Why not some interesting patterned plantings. About a quarter century
ago, I lived in this rather military neighborhood where everyone cut
their grass precisely a certain length so that every lawn looked like a
crew cut. I couldn't invest in pants because I was renting the house,
and with three children didn't have time for too much, so what we did
was allow some of the gerass to grow a bit longer so that we could scupt
designs with a weed whacker. Since the house was on a bit of a hill, we
did arabesques, stripes, and even left circles of wild violets and
dandelions with crew cut defining around them. People used to stop
their cars and complement the idea but four neighbors banded together,
found a county rule where "taste" was defined by the majority of
neighbors and we had to go back to crew cutting. A block away, however,
one of my sons got hired by two neighbors seeking the same concept.

I think the wide expanse of lawn on that building has many many
possibilities - I was also thinking that maybe different spaces could be
used for different ideas like perhaps edging of a walkway with a rock
garden and hardy succulents, some raised beds, some texture created by
different colors of ground cover, perhaps an area with health plants
like herbs and St.John's Wort (which I saw last year doing a good job on
a temperate hillside..)

Surely, there are enough natural plant and spice barriers and BT out
there to control critters and pests?

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Posted by RicodJour on February 17, 2008, 7:13 am
> dnY10D9lynCvanZ2dnUVZ_gOdn...@rcn.net:
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> >http://www.ntu.edu.sg/OFPM/About+Us/Development+Division/adm.htm
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> I think I like it, excpet that they're using what lloks like a mown lawn.
> IMO, it'd be better aesthetically to use native grasses and leave it
> unmown, making it an actual habitat - I don't know whether that is
> practical, tho' (possibility of burrowing critters, harder to see
> potential/developing problems in the roof, other problems?)

Are you kidding? Who wouldn't want to ride a lawn tractor up and over
that thing? They've probably got a real life Forrest Gump mowing it
for free.

R

Posted by ++ on February 18, 2008, 4:56 pm


RicodJour wrote:

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>>dnY10D9lynCvanZ2dnUVZ_gOdn...@rcn.net:
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>>>http://www.ntu.edu.sg/OFPM/About+Us/Development+Division/adm.htm
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>>>
>>I think I like it, excpet that they're using what lloks like a mown lawn.
>>IMO, it'd be better aesthetically to use native grasses and leave it
>>unmown, making it an actual habitat - I don't know whether that is
>>practical, tho' (possibility of burrowing critters, harder to see
>>potential/developing problems in the roof, other problems?)
>>
>>
>
>Are you kidding? Who wouldn't want to ride a lawn tractor up and over
>that thing? They've probably got a real life Forrest Gump mowing it
>for free.
>
>

Consider how sheep and goats might like to maintain it (with the proper
railing, of course). It has a railing but scale is difficult to
determine from the photos.

>R
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Posted by Edgar on February 19, 2008, 2:20 pm
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> RicodJour wrote:
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>>>dnY10D9lynCvanZ2dnUVZ_gOdn...@rcn.net:
>>>
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>>>>http://www.ntu.edu.sg/OFPM/About+Us/Development+Division/adm.htm
>>>>
>>>I think I like it, excpet that they're using what lloks like a mown lawn.
>>>IMO, it'd be better aesthetically to use native grasses and leave it
>>>unmown, making it an actual habitat - I don't know whether that is
>>>practical, tho' (possibility of burrowing critters, harder to see
>>>potential/developing problems in the roof, other problems?)
>>>
>>
>>Are you kidding? Who wouldn't want to ride a lawn tractor up and over
>>that thing? They've probably got a real life Forrest Gump mowing it
>>for free.
>>
>
> Consider how sheep and goats might like to maintain it (with the proper
> railing, of course). It has a railing but scale is difficult to determine
> from the photos.
>


Now we're going to need ADA for animals! What is the required railing
height for a goat??? :-)

--
Edgar



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