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Ken Tucker creative1985@gmail.com 07-26-2009
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Posted by creative1985@gmail.com on July 26, 2009, 9:38 am
Last Thur @ 1pm Ken emailed me that they were being forcibly evacuated
from their home because of forest fires in the area.
We had been emailing back and forth for several days prior about it.
I came from an area that has tremendous propensity for forest fires
for about half of the year so I gave him some ideas to think about.
He didn't want to leave but knew he better do as he was told.
I haven't heard from him since Thur.
I imagine he'll let me know something as soon as he's able.

Posted by creative1985@gmail.com on July 28, 2009, 9:03 pm
> wrote:
> > Last Thur @ 1pm Ken emailed me that they were being forcibly evacuated
> > from their home because of forest fires in the area.
> > We had been emailing back and forth for several days prior about it.
> > I came from an area that has tremendous propensity for forest fires
> > for about half of the year so I gave him some ideas to think about.
> > He didn't want to leave but knew he better do as he was told.
> > I haven't heard from him since Thur.
> > I imagine he'll let me know something as soon as he's able.
> Hello CreATIVE oNEand all.
> We rented a lap-top, and the keyboard is different.
> We are now at a Hotel in Vernon BC, allow a bit of background.
> Terrace Mt BC caught fire.
> Wed july 23 : put on wildfire evACTION alert , made lists, packed
> gear.
> Thurs 24: Cops pull in to driveway noonish, strongly recommend we
> leave,
> it's an evac order,a party of vehicles begins forming on the road in
> front of
> our house as it is the last house before the exit as neighbours chat.
> We're last to leave the sub division, cops for 3rd time read or
> rights, "stay
> if you want, at your own risk", wife orders me to evacuate.
> With wishful thinking we parked just outside the evacuation zone and
> camped in our van, with a rain falling all night and the evac center
> was
> overwhelmed. Nope the evacuation order remained so off we go Fri 24
> to register, hoping to get a place to park somewhere.
> To our surprise they booked us into a 5 star Hotel suite, and provided
> meals of our choice from Denny's...good stuff.

Stay away from the meatloaf, I heard some nasty stories.


> Being the archy type, I carry a tape measure



Same here, a small Stanley 10 footer, comes in handy for measuring
stuff at Lowes, sits right next to my aa cell dorcy led flashlight in
my r. front pocket.


and we found the area of
> our suite to be 467 sq.ft., (although our current home (guest house)
> is a
> 400 sq.fter), 6th floor overlookin the city, we were on hold pattern.


Ya'll iz on VACATION!!!!!


> This is Tues 28, and the expectation is we will remain here until Fri,
> and perhaps longer, we think the BC gov has treated us fairly, and the
> volunteer force has been overwhelmingly sympathetic to the needs of
> the evacuees.
> Speakin with the many typical of the thousands that have been evac'd
> most worry more about the guys fighting that fire than they do their
> own
> homes.
> The weather is a problem, near 100 F, dry, breezy, maybe windy.
> Wife and I will conduct a naked rain dance today...

I hope ya'll took your clothes off first!
You dance better, and bring rain faster, if you dredge your nether
regions in cayenne-habanero powder.


Posted by creative1985@gmail.com on July 31, 2009, 10:40 pm
"Ken S. Tucker"> wrote:
> From the standpoint of Close Air Support, the choppers and water-
> bombers are using a skill set the military would envy, indeed the
> military ought to give their pilots some real experience by flying
> those into wildfire.

Envy hell, where do you think those guys learned that stuff?

Fellow canuck Alex Lifeson has been a pilot in the canuck air force
reserves for more than 30 years.

Posted by creative1985@gmail.com on August 3, 2009, 9:44 pm
> > > > > On Jul 26, 6:38 am, "creative1...@gmail.com" <creative1...@gmail.=
com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Last Thur @ 1pm Ken emailed me that they were being forcibly ev=
acuated
> > > > > > from their home because of forest fires in the area.
> > > > > > We had been emailing back and forth for several days prior abou=
t it.
> > > > > > I came from an area that has tremendous propensity for forest f=
ires
> > > > > > for about half of the year so I gave him some ideas to think ab=
out.
> > > > > > He didn't want to leave but knew he better do as he was told.
> > > > > > I haven't heard from him since Thur.
> > > > > > I imagine he'll let me know something as soon as he's able.
> > > > > Hello CreATIVE oNEand all.
> > > > > We rented a lap-top, and the keyboard is different.
> > > > > We are now at a Hotel in Vernon BC, allow a bit of background.
> > > > > Terrace Mt BC caught fire.
> > > > > Wed july 23 : put on wildfire evACTION alert , made lists, packed
> > > > > gear.
> > > > > Thurs 24: Cops pull in to driveway noonish, strongly recommend we
> > > > > leave,
> > > > > it's an evac order,a party of vehicles begins forming on the road=
in
> > > > > front of
> > > > > our house as it is the last house before the exit as neighbours c=
hat.
> > > > > We're last to leave the sub division, cops for 3rd time read or
> > > > > rights, "stay
> > > > > if you want, at your own risk", wife orders me to evacuate.
> > > > > With wishful thinking we parked just outside the evacuation zone =
and
> > > > > camped in our van, with a rain falling all night and the evac cen=
ter
> > > > > was
> > > > > overwhelmed. Nope the evacuation order remained so off we go Fri =
24
> > > > > to register, hoping to get a place to park somewhere.
> > > > > To our surprise they booked us into a 5 star Hotel suite, and pro=
vided
> > > > > meals of our choice from Denny's...good stuff.
> > > > > Being the archy type, I carry a tape measure and we found the are=
a of
> > > > > our suite to be 467 sq.ft., (although our current home (guest hou=
se)
> > > > > is a
> > > > > 400 sq.fter), 6th floor overlookin the city, we were on hold patt=
ern.
> > > > > This is Tues 28, and the expectation is we will remain here until=
Fri,
> > > > > and perhaps longer, we think the BC gov has treated us fairly, an=
d the
> > > > > volunteer force has been overwhelmingly sympathetic to the needs =
of
> > > > > the evacuees.
> > > > > Speakin with the many typical of the thousands that have been eva=
c'd
> > > > > most worry more about the guys fighting that fire than they do th=
eir
> > > > > own
> > > > > homes.
> > > > > The weather is a problem, near 100 F, dry, breezy, maybe windy.
> > > > > Wife and I will conduct a naked rain dance today...
> > > > > Ken
> > > > We were permitted to return home today (thurs 30) at 8am, we were
> > > > 1st in line at the checkpoint. All's well except I think we cooked =
our
> > > > hard-drive in the van as it was stored too hot !?!, I'm on a backup=
.
> > > > Currently, we're on ~1 hr evac alert, it's fairly smoky now, since =
the
> > > > wind changed blowing from the west toward us.
> > > > This AM a pair of choppers landed in the front yard for a meeting,
> > > > and choppers have been hauling water past us to the fire all day.
> > > > - I wonder if dry ice pellets might be an effective fire retardant?
> > > > Ken
> > > Today (fri 31), the crew is mixing up a napalm mixture in the front
> > > yard. They first had a water truck spray the area, for dust
> > > suppresion,
> > > and I suppose to kill any chance of the chopper spitting out some
> > > flammable gunk that could start a fire, chopper lands.
> > > The procedure sounds somewhat dangerous, a Red Tank containing
> > > the napalm mixture is in the =A0process of being attached to the now
> > > hovering =A0chopper by the ground crew, it has just flown away
> > > suspended
> > > by =A0a pair of cables, the Red Tank has an ignition torch on the tan=
k
> > > to
> > > ignite the napalm as it is expelled, a second chopper is/was buzzing
> > > for spotting/supervision.
> > > That operation is known as 'back-burning', which is to contain the
> > > wildfire by destroying the fuel it can use. They have another 2 drums=
,
> > > to pour out, the situation is fluid.
> > > From the standpoint of Close Air Support, the choppers and water-
> > > bombers are using a skill set the military would envy, indeed the
> > > military ought to give their pilots some real experience by flying
> > > those into wildfire. The enviroment is fairly hostile, between smoke,
> > > and weird winds, heat, it's a serious challenge to get the ordinance
> > > on target.
> > > Our fingers are crossed now, but I nearly envy the pilot for rush he'=
s
> > > getting pouring ignited napalm on a target ... wow.
> > > Ken
> > Aug.1, 0n the 5:30 pm news is a report that we are being ordered to
> > evacuate (FUCK), see
> http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/forecast/city_e.html?bc-27&unit=3Di
> > We're monitoring the winds smoke and odor, and I guess the weather
> > is turned the winds into our direction.
> > Ken
> We decided to stay (ignore evac order), though we think the order was
> well founded, we're packed for 2 minute alert, ie. runaway, the wind
> was a
> gusty breeze blowing the fire north our way, and it was ominous, but
> then
> the wind changed direction to south and the south was ordered evac'd.
> Here's some pix,http://images.google.com/images?gbv=3D2&hl=3Den&sa=3D1&q=
=3D%22Terrace+mountai...
> Last evening into dusk the choppers we're flying over the house
> carrying buckets,
> here's the guys,http://www.globaltv.com/globaltv/bc/1809529.bin?size=3DI
> Today, Aug2, we have a light steady favorable (for us) breeze.
> Ken

Hey, I see your crib in this one!
http://www.kelowna.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/fire-map-550x342.jpg

Posted by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Se=F1ior_Popcor on August 27, 2009, 12:27 am


> > > wrote:
ote:
rote:
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 6:38 am, "creative1...@gmail.com" <creative1..=
.@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Last Thur @ 1pm Ken emailed me that they were being for=
cibly evacuated
> > > > > > > > > > from their home because of forest fires in the area.
> > > > > > > > > > We had been emailing back and forth for several days pr=
ior about it.
> > > > > > > > > > I came from an area that has tremendous propensity for =
forest fires
> > > > > > > > > > for about half of the year so I gave him some ideas to =
think about.
> > > > > > > > > > He didn't want to leave but knew he better do as he was=
told.
> > > > > > > > > > I haven't heard from him since Thur.
> > > > > > > > > > I imagine he'll let me know something as soon as he's a=
ble.
> > > > > > > > > Hello CreATIVE oNEand all.
> > > > > > > > > We rented a lap-top, and the keyboard is different.
> > > > > > > > > We are now at a Hotel in Vernon BC, allow a bit of backgr=
ound.
> > > > > > > > > Terrace Mt BC caught fire.
> > > > > > > > > Wed july 23 : put on wildfire evACTION alert , made lists=
, packed
> > > > > > > > > gear.
> > > > > > > > > Thurs 24: Cops pull in to driveway noonish, strongly reco=
mmend we
> > > > > > > > > leave,
> > > > > > > > > it's an evac order,a party of vehicles begins forming on =
the road in
> > > > > > > > > front of
> > > > > > > > > our house as it is the last house before the exit as neig=
hbours chat.
> > > > > > > > > We're last to leave the sub division, cops for 3rd time r=
ead or
> > > > > > > > > rights, "stay
> > > > > > > > > if you want, at your own risk", wife orders me to evacuat=
e.
> > > > > > > > > With wishful thinking we parked just outside the evacuati=
on zone and
> > > > > > > > > camped in our van, with a rain falling all night and the =
evac center
> > > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > > overwhelmed. Nope the evacuation order remained so off we=
go Fri 24
> > > > > > > > > to register, hoping to get a place to park somewhere.
> > > > > > > > > To our surprise they booked us into a 5 star Hotel suite,=
and provided
> > > > > > > > > meals of our choice from Denny's...good stuff.
> > > > > > > > > Being the archy type, I carry a tape measure and we found=
the area of
> > > > > > > > > our suite to be 467 sq.ft., (although our current home (g=
uest house)
> > > > > > > > > is a
> > > > > > > > > 400 sq.fter), 6th floor overlookin the city, we were on h=
old pattern.
> > > > > > > > > This is Tues 28, and the expectation is we will remain he=
re until Fri,
> > > > > > > > > and perhaps longer, we think the BC gov has treated us fa=
irly, and the
> > > > > > > > > volunteer force has been overwhelmingly sympathetic to th=
e needs of
> > > > > > > > > the evacuees.
> > > > > > > > > Speakin with the many typical of the thousands that have =
been evac'd
> > > > > > > > > most worry more about the guys fighting that fire than th=
ey do their
> > > > > > > > > own
> > > > > > > > > homes.
> > > > > > > > > The weather is a problem, near 100 F, dry, breezy, maybe =
windy.
> > > > > > > > > Wife and I will conduct a naked rain dance today...
> > > > > > > > > Ken
> > > > > > > > We were permitted to return home today (thurs 30) at 8am, w=
e were
> > > > > > > > 1st in line at the checkpoint. All's well except I think we=
cooked our
> > > > > > > > hard-drive in the van as it was stored too hot !?!, I'm on =
a backup.
> > > > > > > > Currently, we're on ~1 hr evac alert, it's fairly smoky now=
, since the
> > > > > > > > wind changed blowing from the west toward us.
> > > > > > > > This AM a pair of choppers landed in the front yard for a m=
eeting,
> > > > > > > > and choppers have been hauling water past us to the fire al=
l day.
> > > > > > > > - I wonder if dry ice pellets might be an effective fire re=
tardant?
> > > > > > > > Ken
> > > > > > > Today (fri 31), the crew is mixing up a napalm mixture in the=
front
> > > > > > > yard. They first had a water truck spray the area, for dust
> > > > > > > suppresion,
> > > > > > > and I suppose to kill any chance of the chopper spitting out =
some
> > > > > > > flammable gunk that could start a fire, chopper lands.
> > > > > > > The procedure sounds somewhat dangerous, a Red Tank containin=
g
> > > > > > > the napalm mixture is in the =A0process of being attached to =
the now
> > > > > > > hovering =A0chopper by the ground crew, it has just flown awa=
y
> > > > > > > suspended
> > > > > > > by =A0a pair of cables, the Red Tank has an ignition torch on=
the tank
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > ignite the napalm as it is expelled, a second chopper is/was =
buzzing
> > > > > > > for spotting/supervision.
> > > > > > > That operation is known as 'back-burning', which is to contai=
n the
> > > > > > > wildfire by destroying the fuel it can use. They have another=
2 drums,
> > > > > > > to pour out, the situation is fluid.
> > > > > > > From the standpoint of Close Air Support, the choppers and wa=
ter-
> > > > > > > bombers are using a skill set the military would envy, indeed=
the
> > > > > > > military ought to give their pilots some real experience by f=
lying
> > > > > > > those into wildfire. The enviroment is fairly hostile, betwee=
n smoke,
> > > > > > > and weird winds, heat, it's a serious challenge to get the or=
dinance
> > > > > > > on target.
> > > > > > > Our fingers are crossed now, but I nearly envy the pilot for =
rush he's
> > > > > > > getting pouring ignited napalm on a target ... wow.
> > > > > > > Ken
> > > > > > Aug.1, 0n the 5:30 pm news is a report that we are being ordere=
d to
> > > > > > evacuate (FUCK), see
> > > > >http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/forecast/city_e.html?bc-27&unit=3Di
> > > > > > We're monitoring the winds smoke and odor, and I guess the weat=
her
> > > > > > is turned the winds into our direction.
> > > > > > Ken
> > > > > We decided to stay (ignore evac order), though we think the order=
was
> > > > > well founded, we're packed for 2 minute alert, ie. runaway, the w=
ind
> > > > > was a
> > > > > gusty breeze blowing the fire north our way, and it was ominous, =
but
> > > > > then
> > > > > the wind changed direction to south and the south was ordered eva=
c'd.
> > > > > Here's some pix,http://images.google.com/images?gbv=3D2&hl=3Den&s=
a=3D1&q=3D%22Terrace+mountai...
> > > > > Last evening into dusk the choppers we're flying over the house
> > > > > carrying buckets,
> > > > > here's the guys,http://www.globaltv.com/globaltv/bc/1809529.bin?s=
ize=3DI
> > > > > Today, Aug2, we have a light steady favorable (for us) breeze.
> > > > > Ken
> > > > Hey, I see your crib in this one!http://www.kelowna.com/wp-content/=
uploads/2009/07/fire-map-550x342.jpg
> > > Yeah, do you see a pair of nudists waving to you :-).
> > > Thurs Aug.6: Our neighbourhood (Valley of the Sun), is still under th=
e
> > > Sat evac
> > > order. The heli crews have been bucketing water past us since then an=
d
> > > are
> > > busy again today. Wife's tending the neighbours menagerie, he can't
> > > get
> > > back home once evac'd, so he'll rest easier knowing things are ok.
> > > A fella in Toronto emailed us to advise the haze over the moon is the
> > > worst
> > > since Mt. St. Helens blew, attributed to the Terrace Mt. fire.
> > > Maybe Indiana Don might see a hazy near full moon tonight while out
> > > howling.
> > > A firm breeze continues to blow the fire away from us, so our naked
> > > wind
> > > dance has been successful so far.
> > > The fire crews are rightly regarded as heroes for facing down this
> > > monster.
> > > Ken
> > Amazing good news: Fri 14, as if God himself have done it, a storm
> > system comes into our valley (Okanagan) stalls right over us and the
> > fire and poured over 2" of rain on it all day. At our house we
> > measured
> > ~3" of rain, smashing all time records and bare in mind the average
> > annual rainfall is ~10", most rain we've ever seen here.
> > Speakin' of bare, the naked rain dance we did worked, or it's a good
> > excuse to get nude and frolick in the sun.
> > The fire is practically out, and all alerts and evac orders cancelled.
> > Ken
> Today: Monday Aug 24, we have a pro lumber jack removing trees from
> our sideyard. Worked out well, the neighbour highered him and he uses
> the wood for winter fuel, and we remove a mutual hazard of Wildfire.
> As much as we like trees...we bite the bullet and remove those, unless
> they provide shade benefit or are really spectacular.
> After we're done I can use the sideyard as a golf course.
> Ken

I think it would be fun to play golf in the nude.

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