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Kraft Paper Don 01-15-2007
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Posted by RicodJour on January 17, 2007, 10:24 pm
Don wrote:
>
> Don't know how typical mine is but in my honest opinion it *looks* like
> hell.
> I've never done batt insulation before and though its not physically hard it
> is a little demanding.
> Knife blades don't last long when cutting batts and I've went through prolly
> at least a dozen of them.
> When the blade dulls it tends to rip the kraft, so there are lots of areas
> where the batts are showing through.
> I did staple all of it though, 5 (1250 count) boxes of Arrow T-50's, 1/4".
> 2 days of stapling has my right hand in anguish.

Don, you have to start asking these questions _before_ you do the work.
From your description it sounds like you used a regular stapler - a
hammer stapler would have worked far faster and not beat up your right
hand so much. Odd, really. I would have thought all those years
choking the chicken would have beefed up your forearm. :)~

> Today will be comprised of cleaning up the insulation and getting set up to
> do the drywall.
> I have to create a stable cut table and (2) 8' T-squares to support the
> stuff while I get the first screw started.

Why would you want to use a table for cutting drywall? You'd have to
handle the sheets twice - once putting them up on the table and another
lifting them off the table to install them. Seems like a lot of extra
work. I find leaning the boards up against the wall and cutting them
standing up works well, or just cutting them from the stack on the
floor. Of course you should be using one of those perforated 24"
T-squares for drywall, they make ripping a, ahem, snap.
http://www.amazon.com/Johnson-RTS241-RockRipper/dp/customer-reviews/B0000302SW

R


Posted by Michael Bulatovich on January 18, 2007, 7:52 am

> Don wrote:
>>
>> Don't know how typical mine is but in my honest opinion it *looks* like
>> hell.
>> I've never done batt insulation before and though its not physically hard
>> it
>> is a little demanding.
>> Knife blades don't last long when cutting batts and I've went through
>> prolly
>> at least a dozen of them.
>> When the blade dulls it tends to rip the kraft, so there are lots of
>> areas
>> where the batts are showing through.
>> I did staple all of it though, 5 (1250 count) boxes of Arrow T-50's,
>> 1/4".
>> 2 days of stapling has my right hand in anguish.
>
> Don, you have to start asking these questions _before_ you do the work.
> From your description it sounds like you used a regular stapler - a
> hammer stapler would have worked far faster and not beat up your right
> hand so much. Odd, really. I would have thought all those years
> choking the chicken would have beefed up your forearm. :)~
>
>> Today will be comprised of cleaning up the insulation and getting set up
>> to
>> do the drywall.
>> I have to create a stable cut table and (2) 8' T-squares to support the
>> stuff while I get the first screw started.
>
> Why would you want to use a table for cutting drywall? You'd have to
> handle the sheets twice - once putting them up on the table and another
> lifting them off the table to install them. Seems like a lot of extra
> work. I find leaning the boards up against the wall and cutting them
> standing up works well, or just cutting them from the stack on the
> floor. Of course you should be using one of those perforated 24"
> T-squares for drywall, they make ripping a, ahem, snap.
> http://www.amazon.com/Johnson-RTS241-RockRipper/dp/customer-reviews/B0000302SW
>

What he said.



Posted by Bob Morrison on January 18, 2007, 10:26 am
In a previous post RicodJour wrote...
> Why would you want to use a table for cutting drywall? You'd have to
> handle the sheets twice - once putting them up on the table and another
> lifting them off the table to install them. Seems like a lot of extra
> work. I find leaning the boards up against the wall and cutting them
> standing up works well, or just cutting them from the stack on the
> floor. Of course you should be using one of those perforated 24"
> T-squares for drywall, they make ripping a, ahem, snap.
>

I personally prefer the use of a 48-inch drywall square. Lean the sheets
against the wall, put the square on top and cut down to the floor. Fold
the sheet, cut the back paper and you're done.

For rip cuts mark the sheet, put the square on one end, cut to the middle,
flip the square over to the other end, finish the cut.

--
Bob Morrison, PE, SE
R L Morrison Engineering Co
Structural & Civil Engineering
Poulsbo WA
bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com

Posted by Don on January 18, 2007, 12:23 pm
"Bob Morrison"> wrote
> I personally prefer the use of a 48-inch drywall square. Lean the sheets
> against the wall, put the square on top and cut down to the floor. Fold
> the sheet, cut the back paper and you're done.
>
> For rip cuts mark the sheet, put the square on one end, cut to the middle,
> flip the square over to the other end, finish the cut.

Thats exactly what I'll be doing, starting in about 30 mins.
I have a Johnson adjustable 48" T-square.
Previously I thought I'd lay the sheets on a table and cut the electrical
box holes with a knife.
But now I think I'll screw the ceiling sheets up and then use my Ryobi
speedsaw to cut the holes around the boxes.
Its like one of those Roto-zip things but its 18volt cordless.



Posted by Don on January 18, 2007, 12:27 pm
"RicodJour"> wrote
> Don wrote:
>>
>> Don't know how typical mine is but in my honest opinion it *looks* like
>> hell.
>> I've never done batt insulation before and though its not physically hard
>> it
>> is a little demanding.
>> Knife blades don't last long when cutting batts and I've went through
>> prolly
>> at least a dozen of them.
>> When the blade dulls it tends to rip the kraft, so there are lots of
>> areas
>> where the batts are showing through.
>> I did staple all of it though, 5 (1250 count) boxes of Arrow T-50's,
>> 1/4".
>> 2 days of stapling has my right hand in anguish.
>
> Don, you have to start asking these questions _before_ you do the work.
> From your description it sounds like you used a regular stapler - a
> hammer stapler would have worked far faster and not beat up your right
> hand so much. Odd, really. I would have thought all those years
> choking the chicken would have beefed up your forearm. :)~

I used a Stanley electric stapler.
Worked pretty good but I wish it could hold more than 1 stick of staples and
occaisionally it had a tendency to shoot on full automatic, blowing 5-10
staples out before I knew what was goin on.

Just because I've been married forever doesn't mean I'm THAT addicted to
choken that chicken! heh



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