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Posted by RicodJour on June 9, 2009, 11:12 am
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> > Check local sources. =A0Codes and building techniques vary. =A0If you n=
eed
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> > plans, you will probably need building department, and possibly zoning
> > board approval. =A0You will probably need drawings that are signed by a
> > licensed architect/designer/engineer. =A0If you buy cheapy stuff on the
> > internet, you will still have to get the drawings sealed and the local
> > guys will _hammer_ you for being dumb. =A0That's how it works.
> There are always exceptions.
> I've done plans for folks in various states and the projects were
> successful.
> Piss poor designers aren't isolated to the interwebz.
I wasn't addressing the competence of the out of state person. I was
commenting on the 'trying to save money and shooting yourself in the
foot' scenario.
There are no exceptions for state licensing requirements. If the
state/city/town building department requires sealed drawings from
someone licensed in-state, then that's the only thing they will
accept.
Most engineers and architects are not willing to sign off on someone
else's plans due to the liability issues, and those that do will not
seal and stamp out of state drawings on the cheap.
And what about revisions? Even if the out of state designer will do
revisions for free, the in-state guy will be paying to have them
sealed and signed - again. There may be a couple of revisions
required - or more.
You know that thing about the free lunch? Well, this is one of those
situations.
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Posted by tbasc on June 10, 2009, 8:03 am
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> > wrote:
> > > > Check local sources. =A0Codes and building techniques vary. =A0If y=
ou need
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> > > > plans, you will probably need building department, and possibly zon=
ing
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> > > > board approval. =A0You will probably need drawings that are signed =
by a
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> > > > licensed architect/designer/engineer. =A0If you buy cheapy stuff on=
the
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> > > > internet, you will still have to get the drawings sealed and the lo=
cal
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> > > > guys will _hammer_ you for being dumb. =A0That's how it works.
> > > There are always exceptions.
> > > I've done plans for folks in various states and the projects were
> > > successful.
> > > Piss poor designers aren't isolated to the interwebz.
> > I wasn't addressing the competence of the out of state person. =A0I was
> > commenting on the 'trying to save money and shooting yourself in the
> > foot' scenario.
> > There are no exceptions for state licensing requirements. =A0If the
> > state/city/town building department requires sealed drawings from
> > someone licensed in-state, then that's the only thing they will
> > accept.
> > Most engineers and architects are not willing to sign off on someone
> > else's plans due to the liability issues, and those that do will not
> > seal and stamp out of state drawings on the cheap.
> > And what about revisions? =A0Even if the out of state designer will do
> > revisions for free, the in-state guy will be paying to have them
> > sealed and signed - again. =A0There may be a couple of revisions
> > required - or more.
> > You know that thing about the free lunch? =A0Well, this is one of those
> > situations.
> > R
> A friend in Ontario wanted me to do some calculations
> for some 2nd floor dormers, on a new building, I wanted
> to, but instead suggested he pack up his drawings and
> get a face to face consultation from a local Archy for a
> small fee, and get it done right.
> The OP is looking for some kind of reno porch addition,
> so the interface to the building is critical, something
> very hard to do without an examination of what exists,
> (having done that).
> Definitely a job for local talent.
> Ken
Agreed.
Look at the number of times comments in this forum include " I can't
see it from here."
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Posted by creative1985@gmail.com on June 12, 2009, 6:16 pm
On Jun 10, 8:03=A0am, tb...@bellsouth.net wrote:
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> > > wrote:
> > > > > Check local sources. =A0Codes and building techniques vary. =A0If=
you need
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> > > > > plans, you will probably need building department, and possibly z=
oning
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> > > > > board approval. =A0You will probably need drawings that are signe=
d by a
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> > > > > licensed architect/designer/engineer. =A0If you buy cheapy stuff =
on the
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> > > > > internet, you will still have to get the drawings sealed and the =
local
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> > > > > guys will _hammer_ you for being dumb. =A0That's how it works.
> > > > There are always exceptions.
> > > > I've done plans for folks in various states and the projects were
> > > > successful.
> > > > Piss poor designers aren't isolated to the interwebz.
> > > I wasn't addressing the competence of the out of state person. =A0I w=
> > > commenting on the 'trying to save money and shooting yourself in the
> > > foot' scenario.
> > > There are no exceptions for state licensing requirements. =A0If the
> > > state/city/town building department requires sealed drawings from
> > > someone licensed in-state, then that's the only thing they will
> > > accept.
> > > Most engineers and architects are not willing to sign off on someone
> > > else's plans due to the liability issues, and those that do will not
> > > seal and stamp out of state drawings on the cheap.
> > > And what about revisions? =A0Even if the out of state designer will d=
> > > revisions for free, the in-state guy will be paying to have them
> > > sealed and signed - again. =A0There may be a couple of revisions
> > > required - or more.
> > > You know that thing about the free lunch? =A0Well, this is one of tho=
> > > situations.
> > > R
> > A friend in Ontario wanted me to do some calculations
> > for some 2nd floor dormers, on a new building, I wanted
> > to, but instead suggested he pack up his drawings and
> > get a face to face consultation from a local Archy for a
> > small fee, and get it done right.
> > The OP is looking for some kind of reno porch addition,
> > so the interface to the building is critical, something
> > very hard to do without an examination of what exists,
> > (having done that).
> > Definitely a job for local talent.
> > Ken
> Agreed.
> Look at the number of times comments in this forum include " I can't
> see it from here."
> T
You can't *see* what you are not looking at.
Imagination, determination, attitude and drive, with those things all
things are possible.
Oh yeah, a little bit of coin is nice to fuel the fire of
desire........
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Posted by creative1985@gmail.com on June 12, 2009, 6:13 pm
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> > wrote:
> > > > Check local sources. =A0Codes and building techniques vary. =A0If y=
ou need
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> > > > plans, you will probably need building department, and possibly zon=
ing
show/hide quoted text
> > > > board approval. =A0You will probably need drawings that are signed =
by a
show/hide quoted text
> > > > licensed architect/designer/engineer. =A0If you buy cheapy stuff on=
the
show/hide quoted text
> > > > internet, you will still have to get the drawings sealed and the lo=
cal
show/hide quoted text
> > > > guys will _hammer_ you for being dumb. =A0That's how it works.
> > > There are always exceptions.
> > > I've done plans for folks in various states and the projects were
> > > successful.
> > > Piss poor designers aren't isolated to the interwebz.
> > I wasn't addressing the competence of the out of state person. =A0I was
> > commenting on the 'trying to save money and shooting yourself in the
> > foot' scenario.
> > There are no exceptions for state licensing requirements. =A0If the
> > state/city/town building department requires sealed drawings from
> > someone licensed in-state, then that's the only thing they will
> > accept.
> > Most engineers and architects are not willing to sign off on someone
> > else's plans due to the liability issues, and those that do will not
> > seal and stamp out of state drawings on the cheap.
> > And what about revisions? =A0Even if the out of state designer will do
> > revisions for free, the in-state guy will be paying to have them
> > sealed and signed - again. =A0There may be a couple of revisions
> > required - or more.
> > You know that thing about the free lunch? =A0Well, this is one of those
> > situations.
> > R
> A friend in Ontario wanted me to do some calculations
> for some 2nd floor dormers, on a new building, I wanted
> to, but instead suggested he pack up his drawings and
> get a face to face consultation from a local Archy for a
> small fee, and get it done right.
> The OP is looking for some kind of reno porch addition,
> so the interface to the building is critical, something
> very hard to do without an examination of what exists,
> (having done that).
> Definitely a job for local talent.
> Ken
Suppose there is no local talent?
Hard to believe?
I used to think that way, then I moved to a place where it was true.
I didn't know such a thing existed but here I am right in the middle
of it, and no doubt there are many other such places.
So, whats your 2nd choice?
The funny thing about things iz, the more you do them the better you
get.
I'm about 95% complete with my current remodeling project and each of
the previous 4 were learning experiences as has been this current one,
thus, my 5th is better than the previous ones.
When you've designed several thousand remodeling projects of just
about everything you can imagine and have taught others to do the same
you gain an insight on what needs to be done.
Digital pictures, video, the internet and email combined with precise
communication has almost erased the necessity for in-person conference
regarding residential architectural design, at least in my experience.
I've designed an estimated $20mil worth of projects in the past 3
years and have not seen any of them or the owners or contractors in
person.
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