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Model Building - Roof Help! FezHasLotsaToes 05-17-2006
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Posted by jojo on May 18, 2006, 10:34 am

> We are a small firm in Texas, and we have been designing homes for a
> subdivision that requires us to submit a scaled model for each home in
> a "design review" process.
>
> We have completed one model for this community, but have many more to
> come and would appreciate any tips and tricks you can provide us (been
> out of school too long around here)! Specifically, we're having
> trouble with the roof and it feels like we're just cutting out the
> pieces and folding them, making them work the best we can.
>
> Check out some pictures of our last model - ANY suggestions would be
> appreciated! It doesn't have to be fancy (obviously!), but we could do
> better.
>
> http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7210/hpim16743tq.jpg
>
> http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8763/hpim16707lk.jpg
>
> http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5447/hpim16681iy.jpg
>

Actually, what your doing is fine for a subdivision approval. You want to
have nice models
for show and tell at your business, but in this part of Texas (central) you
not likely to convince the
owner/builder to pay for a "good" model.
Has the project gone to cad yet?
Visually, simply plotting paper with roof hatch on it then cutting it will
add more detail.

You said your a small firm....we are too, and we simply can't afford the
manpower and programs to
produce great models. In the rare instance we get clients who want models,
we sub them out.
If your doing lots of homes in this area, this could be the most profitable
for you. Striking an agreement
with a reputable model builder will save everyone time and money. Model
builders can be very reasonable in cost if they have the potential for many
projects or similar scope. If you need a recommendation for one in Central
Texas, I'll add a link (otherwise, I won't Spam the group)

Do they HAVE to be physical? Sketch-Up has a very short learning curve from
which you can create great models for this purpose. The program is not
expensive (around 500 I think).

Good luck with...I personally would love to see your progress..
jojo



Posted by RicodJour on May 18, 2006, 12:49 pm

jojo wrote:
> > We are a small firm in Texas, and we have been designing homes for a
> > subdivision that requires us to submit a scaled model for each home in
> > a "design review" process.
> >
> > We have completed one model for this community, but have many more to
> > come and would appreciate any tips and tricks you can provide us (been
> > out of school too long around here)! Specifically, we're having
> > trouble with the roof and it feels like we're just cutting out the
> > pieces and folding them, making them work the best we can.
> >
> > Check out some pictures of our last model - ANY suggestions would be
> > appreciated! It doesn't have to be fancy (obviously!), but we could do
> > better.
> >
> > http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7210/hpim16743tq.jpg
> >
> > http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8763/hpim16707lk.jpg
> >
> > http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5447/hpim16681iy.jpg
> >
>
> Actually, what your doing is fine for a subdivision approval. You want to
> have nice models
> for show and tell at your business, but in this part of Texas (central) you
> not likely to convince the
> owner/builder to pay for a "good" model.
> Has the project gone to cad yet?
> Visually, simply plotting paper with roof hatch on it then cutting it will
> add more detail.
>
> You said your a small firm....we are too, and we simply can't afford the
> manpower and programs to
> produce great models. In the rare instance we get clients who want models,
> we sub them out.
> If your doing lots of homes in this area, this could be the most profitable
> for you. Striking an agreement
> with a reputable model builder will save everyone time and money. Model
> builders can be very reasonable in cost if they have the potential for many
> projects or similar scope. If you need a recommendation for one in Central
> Texas, I'll add a link (otherwise, I won't Spam the group)
>
> Do they HAVE to be physical? Sketch-Up has a very short learning curve from
> which you can create great models for this purpose. The program is not
> expensive (around 500 I think).

A SketchUp model is far better in my mind. Lots more detail, can show
the actual shadows cast for the actual location and time of day/year,
and it can be output as a video. It might be worth taking a CD to the
development board meeting and see what they think.

R


Posted by on May 18, 2006, 4:44 pm
>
> Actually, what your doing is fine for a subdivision approval. You want to
> have nice models
> for show and tell at your business, but in this part of Texas (central) you
> not likely to convince the
> owner/builder to pay for a "good" model.
> Has the project gone to cad yet?

Yes, the whole thing has been blocked out as part of the package we had
to submit. Frankly, I think the review process is a bit ridiculous,
but the community is so super exclusive.

> Visually, simply plotting paper with roof hatch on it then cutting it will
> add more detail.

That's what we did, minus the hatching. We actually don't know how to
do a roof on a model, and that is mostly the problem. Part of the
reason that roof looks so crappy (opinions on complexity aside) is that
piecing it together was pure guesswork on our part!

As far as the review process goes, we do not have to resubmit a model,
so ours made it through just fine. We did have to make a few
adjustments to the elevations and floor plants, and add more detail to
our plans, but you're right, our model worked fine for the review. We
would just prefer to have a better idea of what we are doing!

>
> You said your a small firm....we are too, and we simply can't afford the
> manpower and programs to
> produce great models. In the rare instance we get clients who want models,
> we sub them out.
> If your doing lots of homes in this area, this could be the most profitable
> for you. Striking an agreement
> with a reputable model builder will save everyone time and money. Model
> builders can be very reasonable in cost if they have the potential for many
> projects or similar scope. If you need a recommendation for one in Central
> Texas, I'll add a link (otherwise, I won't Spam the group)
>
> Do they HAVE to be physical? Sketch-Up has a very short learning curve from
> which you can create great models for this purpose. The program is not
> expensive (around 500 I think).

Yep, they HAVE to be physical...a bit ridiculous right? To me, they
seem to want us to jump through hoops more than provide them with stuff
that's actually helpful.

>
> Good luck with...I personally would love to see your progress..
> jojo

I appreciate it!


Posted by Warm Worm on May 18, 2006, 3:06 pm
FezHasLotsaToes@gmail.com wrote:
> We are a small firm in Texas, and we have been designing homes for a
> subdivision that requires us to submit a scaled model for each home in
> a "design review" process.
>
> We have completed one model for this community, but have many more to
> come and would appreciate any tips and tricks you can provide us (been
> out of school too long around here)! Specifically, we're having
> trouble with the roof and it feels like we're just cutting out the
> pieces and folding them, making them work the best we can.
>
> Check out some pictures of our last model - ANY suggestions would be
> appreciated! It doesn't have to be fancy (obviously!), but we could do
> better.
>
> http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7210/hpim16743tq.jpg
>
> http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8763/hpim16707lk.jpg
>
> http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5447/hpim16681iy.jpg
>

3D LCD shutter glasses may be another, more effective (in terms of cost,
labor, and resources) option:
http://www.reald.com/scientific/products.asp

Rather than output anything, just input the clients. :)

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