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11-28-2007

Michael Bulatov...

EDS

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Posted by ++ on November 28, 2007, 12:48 pm

It was NOT the pawlonia, a wonderful tree from, obviously, Poland that
is a dangerous invader but the Tree of Heaven (different oriental
related idea in my brain?)

Tree of Heaven
*/Ailanthus altissima /*
Tree that spreads clonally over large areas, will freely seed, very
difficult to control

This tree is from China.

Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ailanthus_altissima

The article had a little substance about the contact dermatitus which I
only know from hearsay from woodworkers who tried to work the stuff. If
it is true that poson ivy is becoming stronger up to 7x from global
warming in my locale, perhaps this northern Chinese invader is also
becoming stronger in contact dermatitus from invading in cities and
other pollution prone areas?

Posted by Michael Bulatovich on November 28, 2007, 1:10 pm

The Pawlonia is listed as an invasive species, and is banned in one of the
states of the north-east. I learned that from this thread.

The Ailanthus, which we call "Stinky Tree", is a scourge in the cities. I
yank up several shoots every year, wherever I think I can get away with it,
but there's a 40-footer not 200 feet from here. My neighbor did us all a
favor and cut down a 50-footer on her property a couple years ago. Ever see
the roots on those things? You'd understand how they establish themselves in
a simple crack in the asphalt if you did.
--

MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca

> It was NOT the pawlonia, a wonderful tree from, obviously, Poland that is

> a dangerous invader but the Tree of Heaven (different oriental related

> idea in my brain?)

> Tree of Heaven

> */Ailanthus altissima /*

> Tree that spreads clonally over large areas, will freely seed, very

> difficult to control

> This tree is from China.

> Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ailanthus_altissima

> The article had a little substance about the contact dermatitus which I

> only know from hearsay from woodworkers who tried to work the stuff. If

> it is true that poson ivy is becoming stronger up to 7x from global

> warming in my locale, perhaps this northern Chinese invader is also

> becoming stronger in contact dermatitus from invading in cities and other

> pollution prone areas?

Posted by ++ on November 28, 2007, 1:42 pm

Michael Bulatovich wrote:

>The Pawlonia is listed as an invasive species, and is banned in one of the

>states of the north-east. I learned that from this thread.

>The Ailanthus, which we call "Stinky Tree", is a scourge in the cities. I

>yank up several shoots every year, wherever I think I can get away with it,

>but there's a 40-footer not 200 feet from here. My neighbor did us all a

>favor and cut down a 50-footer on her property a couple years ago. Ever see

>the roots on those things? You'd understand how they establish themselves in

>a simple crack in the asphalt if you did.

I lived in Baltimore City for 9 years a little over a decade ago. It
was a scourge there, and very difficult to get up. I spent a lot of
time trying to grow Victorian garden type plants without chemicals and
to show my neighbors how to accomplish this, some plants of which I got
locally from famlies of many generations. My garden was in back of a
1868 townhouse and I STILL regret not bringing some of the seeds which I
left for the new owner, with me, for a particular kind of black mustard
and an unusual range of coreopsis. I had rose varieties no longer
seen. There had been several generations of Lithuanians inhabiting the
house from the turn of hte 20th c. who had planted some interesting
unique radishes....I had two dwarf pears....the neighbor two over had a
couple of plums...

:( (missing hte old garden plants and walkways......)

Posted by EDS on November 28, 2007, 4:05 pm

> Michael Bulatovich wrote:

>>The Pawlonia is listed as an invasive species, and is banned in one of the

>>states of the north-east. I learned that from this thread.

>>The Ailanthus, which we call "Stinky Tree", is a scourge in the cities. I

>>yank up several shoots every year, wherever I think I can get away with

>>it, but there's a 40-footer not 200 feet from here. My neighbor did us all

>>a favor and cut down a 50-footer on her property a couple years ago. Ever

>>see the roots on those things? You'd understand how they establish

>>themselves in a simple crack in the asphalt if you did.

> I lived in Baltimore City for 9 years a little over a decade ago. It was

> a scourge there, and very difficult to get up. I spent a lot of time

> trying to grow Victorian garden type plants without chemicals and to show

> my neighbors how to accomplish this, some plants of which I got locally

> from famlies of many generations. My garden was in back of a 1868

> townhouse and I STILL regret not bringing some of the seeds which I left

> for the new owner, with me, for a particular kind of black mustard and an

> unusual range of coreopsis. I had rose varieties no longer seen. There

> had been several generations of Lithuanians inhabiting the house from the

> turn of hte 20th c. who had planted some interesting unique radishes....I

> had two dwarf pears....the neighbor two over had a couple of plums...

> :( (missing hte old garden plants and walkways......)

When we lived in The South End of Boston, we had 2 of these guys in our back
yard, one about 60' and the other about 50'. Because the light was
restricted, they did not branch out for about 25'. I liked them because they
were tough and good but stinky shade trees. I had a client on Beacon Hill in
1981 who roofed her 15'x15' rear garden with glass, but her 50' tree of
heaven went through the roof. We flashed up the tree with EPDM and a giant
adjustable hose clamp. About 5 years ago she called because she had not
loosened the clamp and the tree had broken it while developing a waist. The
tree had a watering system for the roots. That was an interesting and fun
job.
EDS

Posted by Michael Bulatovich on November 28, 2007, 4:13 pm

>> Michael Bulatovich wrote:

>>>The Pawlonia is listed as an invasive species, and is banned in one of

>>>the states of the north-east. I learned that from this thread.

>>>

>>>The Ailanthus, which we call "Stinky Tree", is a scourge in the cities. I

>>>yank up several shoots every year, wherever I think I can get away with

>>>it, but there's a 40-footer not 200 feet from here. My neighbor did us

>>>all a favor and cut down a 50-footer on her property a couple years ago.

>>>Ever see the roots on those things? You'd understand how they establish

>>>themselves in a simple crack in the asphalt if you did.

>>>

>> I lived in Baltimore City for 9 years a little over a decade ago. It was

>> a scourge there, and very difficult to get up. I spent a lot of time

>> trying to grow Victorian garden type plants without chemicals and to show

>> my neighbors how to accomplish this, some plants of which I got locally

>> from famlies of many generations. My garden was in back of a 1868

>> townhouse and I STILL regret not bringing some of the seeds which I left

>> for the new owner, with me, for a particular kind of black mustard and an

>> unusual range of coreopsis. I had rose varieties no longer seen. There

>> had been several generations of Lithuanians inhabiting the house from the

>> turn of hte 20th c. who had planted some interesting unique radishes....I

>> had two dwarf pears....the neighbor two over had a couple of plums...

>> :( (missing hte old garden plants and walkways......)

> When we lived in The South End of Boston, we had 2 of these guys in our

> back yard, one about 60' and the other about 50'. Because the light was

> restricted, they did not branch out for about 25'. I liked them because

> they were tough and good but stinky shade trees. I had a client on Beacon

> Hill in 1981 who roofed her 15'x15' rear garden with glass, but her 50'

> tree of heaven went through the roof. We flashed up the tree with EPDM and

> a giant adjustable hose clamp. About 5 years ago she called because she

> had not loosened the clamp and the tree had broken it while developing a

> waist. The tree had a watering system for the roots. That was an

> interesting and fun job.

> EDS

Sounds like it, but all that for a Stinky Tree?

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