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NASA's New 'Lesson' from Space Mac the Nice 08-17-2007
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Posted by Fred J. McCall on August 18, 2007, 1:35 pm

:On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:00:56 -0600, "Secretia Green"
:
:>Good thing the astronauts are keeping the shuttle in good repair, so they
:>can go up again....and repair it.
:
:Its the station they repaired. The station has been up there since
:1998 and the part they replaced has been up there since October 2000.
:When was the last time you took your car in for servicing?
:

ISS isn't a car. It's a house. When was the last time you had to
call in a repair crew to replace a part of your house that was only 7
years old?


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Posted by Brian Thorn on August 18, 2007, 2:53 pm
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:35:35 -0700, Fred J. McCall


>ISS isn't a car. It's a house. When was the last time you had to
>call in a repair crew to replace a part of your house that was only 7
>years old?

You never had to work on your house in seven years? Where do you live
and how can I get one like it? Home Depot and Lowe's must really hate
whoever built your house!

Brian

Posted by Fred J. McCall on August 18, 2007, 4:14 pm

:On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:35:35 -0700, Fred J. McCall
:
:
:>ISS isn't a car. It's a house. When was the last time you had to
:>call in a repair crew to replace a part of your house that was only 7
:>years old?
:
:You never had to work on your house in seven years? Where do you live
:and how can I get one like it? Home Depot and Lowe's must really hate
:whoever built your house!
:

Pretty much not, yeah. I think the first 7 years ought to be pretty
damned much 'no care required'. We're not talking about a 30 year old
house here. ISS is *NEW*.

The only 'work' I've had done other than 'trim the trees' is to put
more refrigerant in the air conditioner. I haven't had to call anyone
in to replace pieces, particularly pieces that are only 7 years old.


--
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
--George Bernard Shaw

Posted by Jim Kingdon on August 18, 2007, 9:17 am
> And you do realize NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric
> Adminstration) is responsible for weather satellites, not NASA, right?

Only partially. The status quo is that NASA gets the statellite up
there and NOAA operates it (or something like that, I'm probably
ignorant/oversimplifying on the details). See for example:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/noaa-n/main/index.html
http://www.publicaffairs.noaa.gov/releases2007/aug07/noaa07-r309.html

Maybe it would be good if NASA weren't involved, but that kind of
depends on how equipped NOAA is to do a relatively big and complex
procurement. Just because some of us have complaints about the
NASA-contractor-Congress iron triangle doesn't automatically mean the
NOAA-contractor-Congress triangle would be better.

Posted by BradGuth on August 19, 2007, 3:25 pm
wrote:

> So what *is* the "lesson" for the children to learn from this?

That our astronauts and spendy shuttles are totally expendable. They
should just thank their lucky stars that none of our ABLs are allowed
to be running through those R&D trials, as required per DoD field
testing in order to qualify for their next level of funding.

However, any extended EVAs are also damn risky business, whereas at
least our frail DNA isn't a happy camper to all of that raw solar and
moon contributed radiation, not to mention their having to avoid that
nasty Van Allen SAA contour that's getting extremely large.

Perhaps of whatever's on the backside of that broken set of thermal
tiles isn't all that mission critical.
- Brad Guth


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