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Need ideas for window details Sasquatch 05-25-2006
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Posted by Kris Krieger on May 30, 2006, 6:58 pm

> "Sasquatch"> wrote
>> I've seen some pretty nice, and very expensive homes that have brick
>> accents. When done well, I like it. And it's all about what *we*
>> like, right?
>
> Of course.
> And the fatal flaw in that is that very few people recognize quality
> anymore, thus, the over abundance of trash architecture around
> everywhere. As Rico pointed out, its common practice amongst the
> ignorant to stick stuff on the front of a house, much as a lady of the
> night puts powder on her face, so as to create a transparent illusion
> which only temporarily disguises what is underneath, cheapness.

I'd seen some HGTV show where the people wanted to redo the tacky front of
a house for which they'd paid somehting over $400K.

The job was easier then they'd expected because the huge front
columns/"portico" thing was stucco-coated *FOAM*.

I was utterly appalled.


> The experienced designer will pinpoint these clues early on in his
> interaction with the client and his eyes will glaze over and just get
> the job done as quickly as possible before he pulls his pistol and
> kills everything in sight.

To quote the current movie ad:
"how can you kill what's already dead..."

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Posted by RicodJour on May 30, 2006, 7:27 pm
Kris Krieger wrote:
>
> I'd seen some HGTV show where the people wanted to redo the tacky front of
> a house for which they'd paid somehting over $400K.
>
> The job was easier then they'd expected because the huge front
> columns/"portico" thing was stucco-coated *FOAM*.
>
> I was utterly appalled.

Why?

R


Posted by Kris Krieger on June 1, 2006, 1:38 pm

> Kris Krieger wrote:
>>
>> I'd seen some HGTV show where the people wanted to redo the tacky
>> front of a house for which they'd paid somehting over $400K.
>>
>> The job was easier then they'd expected because the huge front
>> columns/"portico" thing was stucco-coated *FOAM*.
>>
>> I was utterly appalled.
>
> Why?
>
> R
>
>

A 2-story portico (on a high-proiced "luxury house) made of what looked
like florist's foam?

If I have to explain it, then no explanation would be of any use.

Posted by RicodJour on June 1, 2006, 3:33 pm
Kris Krieger wrote:
> > Kris Krieger wrote:
> >>
> >> I'd seen some HGTV show where the people wanted to redo the tacky
> >> front of a house for which they'd paid somehting over $400K.
> >>
> >> The job was easier then they'd expected because the huge front
> >> columns/"portico" thing was stucco-coated *FOAM*.
> >>
> >> I was utterly appalled.
> >
> > Why?
> >
> > R
>
> A 2-story portico (on a high-proiced "luxury house) made of what looked
> like florist's foam?
>
> If I have to explain it, then no explanation would be of any use.

If you're commenting on the design, I can't assess the situation from
your twenty words. If you're commenting on the construction technique,
you need to get out more. It's called EIFS or an acrylic stucco
system, and it is as good a system as any other as long as the
installer knows what they are doing.

Ask Don. I'd hazard a guess that at least 50% of the buildings he
designed in his previous life had some acrylic stucco detailing.

R


Posted by Kris Krieger on June 4, 2006, 4:37 pm

> Kris Krieger wrote:
>> > Kris Krieger wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'd seen some HGTV show where the people wanted to redo the tacky
>> >> front of a house for which they'd paid somehting over $400K.
>> >>
>> >> The job was easier then they'd expected because the huge front
>> >> columns/"portico" thing was stucco-coated *FOAM*.
>> >>
>> >> I was utterly appalled.
>> >
>> > Why?
>> >
>> > R
>>
>> A 2-story portico (on a high-proiced "luxury house) made of what looked
>> like florist's foam?
>>
>> If I have to explain it, then no explanation would be of any use.
>
> If you're commenting on the design, I can't assess the situation from
> your twenty words. If you're commenting on the construction technique,
> you need to get out more. It's called EIFS or an acrylic stucco
> system, and it is as good a system as any other as long as the
> installer knows what they are doing.

I know what acrylic stucco is. It was created to adapt to climates, such
as Southern California's, whcih experience wide temperature fluctuations
over short periods of time (such as going into the 40's at night and the
upper 90's in the afternoon). It was OTOH quite problematic in the cool
rainy climate of Vancouver. I've personally seen (and lived in) both.

The stucco, acrylic or otherwise, was, however, not the issue. The OP's
statement is quoted right at the top. The issue, as indicated by the OP's
aasterisks and caps, was the foam used to make the underlying structure.


> Ask Don. I'd hazard a guess that at least 50% of the buildings he
> designed in his previous life had some acrylic stucco detailing.
>
> R
>
>


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