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New Toy! Michael Bulatovich 10-02-2007
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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on October 2, 2007, 4:52 pm
Just bought a Garmin mapping GPS unit, and am still trying to get the hang
of it...wondered if anyone out there is using these sorts of things. This
one's a little bigger than a candy bar phone, and waterproof.

I'll be heading out for a week in the bush before the snow falls for the
mining project and will be using it to document positions for later
integration into my GIS model, so it's crucial that I get good with this
thing fast.
--


MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca



Posted by Edgar on October 2, 2007, 5:14 pm
> Just bought a Garmin mapping GPS unit, and am still trying to get the hang
> of it...wondered if anyone out there is using these sorts of things. This
> one's a little bigger than a candy bar phone, and waterproof.
>
> I'll be heading out for a week in the bush before the snow falls for the
> mining project and will be using it to document positions for later
> integration into my GIS model, so it's crucial that I get good with this
> thing fast.
> --
>
>
> MichaelB
> www.michaelbulatovich.ca
>
>

Been wanting to get a Bluetooth dongle for my phone that lets it do GPS.
That stuff is really cool. You need to have a view to the sky for it to
track you, and they usually have a limit of how many points you can add
(depending on the memory of the unit) but it is usually something in the
thousands to tens of thousands. They usually take 30 to 45 seconds to
acquire a signal on cold boot and possibly faster on warm boot. Does it
take extra memory cards or are the maps built in?

--
Edgar



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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on October 2, 2007, 5:38 pm

>> Just bought a Garmin mapping GPS unit, and am still trying to get the
>> hang of it...wondered if anyone out there is using these sorts of things.
>> This one's a little bigger than a candy bar phone, and waterproof.
>>
>> I'll be heading out for a week in the bush before the snow falls for the
>> mining project and will be using it to document positions for later
>> integration into my GIS model, so it's crucial that I get good with this
>> thing fast.
>> --
>>
>>
>> MichaelB
>> www.michaelbulatovich.ca
>>
>>
>
> Been wanting to get a Bluetooth dongle for my phone that lets it do GPS.

A phone can give you GPS?

> That stuff is really cool. You need to have a view to the sky for it to
> track you,

This one comes with an antena projecting from the top a bit

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=145&pID=310

so it claims to be able to fix under forest canopy. I've had a fix right
here in my subterranean HQ, with one small window facing into a mutual
driveway 7 feet wide.

> and they usually have a limit of how many points you can add (depending on
> the memory of the unit) but it is usually something in the thousands to
> tens of thousands.

I get 1,000 in 50 "routes" max. on board, but I think I can dump them onto
the chip, and then store more on board. Haven't figured that out yet...I'm
hoping theres a CSV export or something.

> They usually take 30 to 45 seconds to acquire a signal on cold boot and
> possibly faster on warm boot. Does it take extra memory cards or are the
> maps built in?

Warm is much faster...maybe 10 seconds?

It's got a 64 Mb SD memory, but you can buy bigger if you need it. Topo maps
for Canada I purchased separately ($170) and uploaded everything between
Thunder Bay and the claims (I'm driving from there), and Windsor to
Peterborough and up to Parry Sound and it took about 45 Mb.

With WAAS ability, it claims to have accuracy down to 4-5 meters, depending
on the triangulation, I think. It seems to vary as you walk around. Gives
lat/long or UTM, which is what all my drawings have. Also does altitude. I
just have to get good with it.

> --
> Edgar
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>



Posted by Edgar on October 2, 2007, 7:47 pm
>
>>> Just bought a Garmin mapping GPS unit, and am still trying to get the
>>> hang of it...wondered if anyone out there is using these sorts of
>>> things. This one's a little bigger than a candy bar phone, and
>>> waterproof.
>>>
>>> I'll be heading out for a week in the bush before the snow falls for the
>>> mining project and will be using it to document positions for later
>>> integration into my GIS model, so it's crucial that I get good with this
>>> thing fast.
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> MichaelB
>>> www.michaelbulatovich.ca
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Been wanting to get a Bluetooth dongle for my phone that lets it do GPS.
>
> A phone can give you GPS?
>
>> That stuff is really cool. You need to have a view to the sky for it to
>> track you,
>
> This one comes with an antena projecting from the top a bit
>
> https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=145&pID=310
>
> so it claims to be able to fix under forest canopy. I've had a fix right
> here in my subterranean HQ, with one small window facing into a mutual
> driveway 7 feet wide.
>
>> and they usually have a limit of how many points you can add (depending
>> on the memory of the unit) but it is usually something in the thousands
>> to tens of thousands.
>
> I get 1,000 in 50 "routes" max. on board, but I think I can dump them onto
> the chip, and then store more on board. Haven't figured that out yet...I'm
> hoping theres a CSV export or something.
>
>> They usually take 30 to 45 seconds to acquire a signal on cold boot and
>> possibly faster on warm boot. Does it take extra memory cards or are the
>> maps built in?
>
> Warm is much faster...maybe 10 seconds?
>
> It's got a 64 Mb SD memory, but you can buy bigger if you need it. Topo
> maps for Canada I purchased separately ($170) and uploaded everything
> between Thunder Bay and the claims (I'm driving from there), and Windsor
> to Peterborough and up to Parry Sound and it took about 45 Mb.
>
> With WAAS ability, it claims to have accuracy down to 4-5 meters,
> depending on the triangulation, I think. It seems to vary as you walk
> around. Gives lat/long or UTM, which is what all my drawings have. Also
> does altitude. I just have to get good with it.
>
>> --
>> Edgar
>>
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>
>

Sounds like your all set then...what was the question :-).

My phone is a XV6700 which runs Windows Mobile 5/6. It basically like a
mini laptop, in which I can install programs and do all sorts of cool stuff.
A friend of mine bought a Bluetooth GPS transmitter and some Tom Tom
software and it works on his treo just like any other GPS unit. Worked very
well, and they usually have a "pedestrian" mode that you use while walking
or hiking as opposed to driving.

Basically you buy one of these:

http://www.buygpsnow.com/bluetooth-gps_9.aspx

(preferably a sirf III version as it has better accuracy than older
chipsets)

Then install one of these on your phone:

http://www.buygpsnow.com/gps-software_12.aspx

and your all set. Those usually come with maps built into an SD card also.
Just need to set up the gps unit by bluetooth (its works like a serial
connection). Some of the standard free stuff also works with the GPS units
such as Live Search or Google Maps Mobile (but those need internet access to
grab the maps), and you can hook up the GPS unit to almost anything that has
bluetooth, such as a laptop. It will only work with phones that support the
connection, which is basically any windows mobile phone.


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Edgar



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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on October 3, 2007, 7:34 am

>>
>>>> Just bought a Garmin mapping GPS unit, and am still trying to get the
>>>> hang of it...wondered if anyone out there is using these sorts of
>>>> things. This one's a little bigger than a candy bar phone, and
>>>> waterproof.
>>>>
>>>> I'll be heading out for a week in the bush before the snow falls for
>>>> the mining project and will be using it to document positions for later
>>>> integration into my GIS model, so it's crucial that I get good with
>>>> this thing fast.
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> MichaelB
>>>> www.michaelbulatovich.ca
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Been wanting to get a Bluetooth dongle for my phone that lets it do GPS.
>>
>> A phone can give you GPS?
>>
>>> That stuff is really cool. You need to have a view to the sky for it to
>>> track you,
>>
>> This one comes with an antena projecting from the top a bit
>>
>> https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=145&pID=310
>>
>> so it claims to be able to fix under forest canopy. I've had a fix right
>> here in my subterranean HQ, with one small window facing into a mutual
>> driveway 7 feet wide.
>>
>>> and they usually have a limit of how many points you can add (depending
>>> on the memory of the unit) but it is usually something in the thousands
>>> to tens of thousands.
>>
>> I get 1,000 in 50 "routes" max. on board, but I think I can dump them
>> onto the chip, and then store more on board. Haven't figured that out
>> yet...I'm hoping theres a CSV export or something.
>>
>>> They usually take 30 to 45 seconds to acquire a signal on cold boot and
>>> possibly faster on warm boot. Does it take extra memory cards or are
>>> the maps built in?
>>
>> Warm is much faster...maybe 10 seconds?
>>
>> It's got a 64 Mb SD memory, but you can buy bigger if you need it. Topo
>> maps for Canada I purchased separately ($170) and uploaded everything
>> between Thunder Bay and the claims (I'm driving from there), and Windsor
>> to Peterborough and up to Parry Sound and it took about 45 Mb.
>>
>> With WAAS ability, it claims to have accuracy down to 4-5 meters,
>> depending on the triangulation, I think. It seems to vary as you walk
>> around. Gives lat/long or UTM, which is what all my drawings have. Also
>> does altitude. I just have to get good with it.
>>
>>> --
>>> Edgar
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>
>>
>>
>
> Sounds like your all set then...what was the question :-).
>
> My phone is a XV6700 which runs Windows Mobile 5/6. It basically like a
> mini laptop, in which I can install programs and do all sorts of cool
> stuff.

When is a phone not a phone? When it has an operating system.

> A friend of mine bought a Bluetooth GPS transmitter and some Tom Tom
> software and it works on his treo just like any other GPS unit. Worked
> very well, and they usually have a "pedestrian" mode that you use while
> walking or hiking as opposed to driving.
>
> Basically you buy one of these:
>
> http://www.buygpsnow.com/bluetooth-gps_9.aspx
>
> (preferably a sirf III version as it has better accuracy than older
> chipsets)

Those are CHEAP!

> Then install one of these on your phone:
>
> http://www.buygpsnow.com/gps-software_12.aspx

Add that in to the above and you're getting close to the cost of a separate
GPS unit...of course you need another pocket on your vest for it....mind
you...you've got the separate reciever thingey.



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