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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on August 3, 2007, 1:50 pm

> On 03 Aug 2007, Edgar wrote
>
>>> On 03 Aug 2007, Michael Bulatovich wrote
>>>
>>>>> There's also another solution to this problem which can work
>>>>> when the width of the door opening is the width of the
>>>>> corridor -- building a recess into the wall of the corridor
>>>>> so that when the hinged door(s) swings back, it aligns
>>>>> with/becomes part of the corridor wall.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've seen that in 18th-century houses and in 1960s' designs;
>>>>> done carefully, it can make for a pleasingly elegant detail.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, but you're going to need real *craftsmen*.
>>>
>>> Ta-roo -- but it's a lovely detail if you can manage it.
>>>
>>> (What? You don't do your own cabinetry work? For shame....)
>
>>
>> So where does the door knob go, or is this only for one of those
>> push/pull doors?
>
> I think the old ones I've seen either worked a hand-hold into the
> moulding or used a smallish, relatively unobtrusive knob. (The
> rear knob would fit into the recess, of course.)

You used to just tilt a proximate bust of Aristotle to operate them in
either direction.



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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on August 3, 2007, 1:48 pm

> On 03 Aug 2007, Michael Bulatovich wrote
>
>>> There's also another solution to this problem which can work when
>>> the width of the door opening is the width of the corridor --
>>> building a recess into the wall of the corridor so that when the
>>> hinged door(s) swings back, it aligns with/becomes part of the
>>> corridor wall.
>>>
>>> I've seen that in 18th-century houses and in 1960s' designs;
>>> done carefully, it can make for a pleasingly elegant detail.
>>
>> Yeah, but you're going to need real *craftsmen*.
>
> Ta-roo -- but it's a lovely detail if you can manage it.
>
> (What? You don't do your own cabinetry work? For shame....)

Actually, I do, and thus I speak from experience.



Posted by ++ on August 3, 2007, 4:49 pm


Michael Bulatovich wrote:

>Yeah, but you're going to need real *craftsmen*.
>
>
Problem is, there are real crafts/men/women out there. But in order to
get them, sometimes you have to put a language communications preference
for the fore/man/woman into the contract in order to get the quality
details communicated to the crafts/man/woman.

>
>
>
>


Posted by Michael Bulatovich on August 3, 2007, 5:05 pm

>
>
> Michael Bulatovich wrote:
>
>>Yeah, but you're going to need real *craftsmen*.
> Problem is, there are real crafts/men/women out there. But in order to
> get them, sometimes you have to put a language communications preference
> for the fore/man/woman into the contract in order to get the quality
> details communicated to the crafts/man/woman.

With things the way they are, these people are busy, no matter what language
they speak..



Posted by HVS on August 3, 2007, 7:01 pm
On 03 Aug 2007, Michael Bulatovich wrote

>
>>
>>
>> Michael Bulatovich wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, but you're going to need real *craftsmen*.
>> Problem is, there are real crafts/men/women out there. But in
>> order to get them, sometimes you have to put a language
>> communications preference for the fore/man/woman into the
>> contract in order to get the quality details communicated to
>> the crafts/man/woman.
>
> With things the way they are, these people are busy, no matter
> what language they speak..

And interestingly -- at least in the UK -- the top sub-contracting
artisans -- stonework, joiners, paint specialists -- don't actually
charge ridiculous prices.

It's a very small world, but the really good ones seem to charge
*reasonable* prices. That rules them out of competitive tenders, but
invariably the lead consultants have to hire them anyway, and there's
not a lot of competition. (When there are only a handful of people
who can do the job, the issue comes down to "When you can fit this
in?" rather than "Can you beat their price?")

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Cheers, Harvey
Architectural and topographical historian



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