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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on August 5, 2007, 8:36 am

> On 03 Aug 2007, Michael Bulatovich wrote
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Bulatovich wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, but you're going to need real *craftsmen*.
>>> Problem is, there are real crafts/men/women out there. But in
>>> order to get them, sometimes you have to put a language
>>> communications preference for the fore/man/woman into the
>>> contract in order to get the quality details communicated to
>>> the crafts/man/woman.
>>
>> With things the way they are, these people are busy, no matter
>> what language they speak..
>
> And interestingly -- at least in the UK -- the top sub-contracting
> artisans -- stonework, joiners, paint specialists -- don't actually
> charge ridiculous prices.
>
> It's a very small world, but the really good ones seem to charge
> *reasonable* prices. That rules them out of competitive tenders, but
> invariably the lead consultants have to hire them anyway, and there's
> not a lot of competition. (When there are only a handful of people
> who can do the job, the issue comes down to "When you can fit this
> in?" rather than "Can you beat their price?")

Indeed. When I was doing really expensive residential work in the late 90's
we had painters who used to work in Manhattan and elsewhere in 'the
north-east' and the schedule revolved around when they could fit it in. They
were worth waiting for.....the things they could do with paint!

On one job we had them paint dirt and smoke stains between the dentils on
the gleaming new plaster cornices around some principal rooms....in others
they used a combing technique that required incredibly steady hands and made
the walls look like they were corduroy.....unbelievable craftsmen. I could
have watched them for hours.
--


MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca



Real Goods Solar, Inc.
Posted by Kris Krieger on August 21, 2007, 5:08 pm

>
>>
>>> On 03 Aug 2007, Michael Bulatovich wrote
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Bulatovich wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, but you're going to need real *craftsmen*.
>>>>> Problem is, there are real crafts/men/women out there. But in
>>>>> order to get them, sometimes you have to put a language
>>>>> communications preference for the fore/man/woman into the
>>>>> contract in order to get the quality details communicated to
>>>>> the crafts/man/woman.
>>>>
>>>> With things the way they are, these people are busy, no matter
>>>> what language they speak..
>>>
>>> And interestingly -- at least in the UK -- the top sub-contracting
>>> artisans -- stonework, joiners, paint specialists -- don't actually
>>> charge ridiculous prices.
>>>
>>> It's a very small world, but the really good ones seem to charge
>>> *reasonable* prices. That rules them out of competitive tenders, but
>>> invariably the lead consultants have to hire them anyway, and
>>> there's not a lot of competition. (When there are only a handful of
>>> people who can do the job, the issue comes down to "When you can fit
>>> this in?" rather than "Can you beat their price?")
>>>
>>
>> That's my impression from what I've seen at Artisan shows, at least
>> where cabinetry is concerned. You can get something that is both
>> hand-made *and*
>> superb quality (*and* using nicer wood) for around the same price as
>> you end up paying for a lot of the commercial crap.
>
> Here's the site of a guy who went to the faculty with me, and his mom
> was .....the Dean:
>
> http://www.objectsandspaces.ca/
>
>

Thanks - I have the site up now - I like his work :) Even in the things
that look "simple", there are all sorts of little details that a subtle
but elegant - and I definitely hesitated using that word, because it's
become so cliche'd, but it does apply, and I can't think of a better one.

Those curved dovetail joints really catch me. THe "logo tabe" is also
striking.

I also like that his work is "contemporary" (clean lines) without having
that sterile, hard, cold feel I get from so much of what is called
contemporary, and so much of what shows up in, er, "catalogues".


Actually, to be honest, I usually might like a couple things by aperson,
but it's rare for me to like so much of a person's work. I like the way
he can combine the curve/arch with clean lines, while still, at the risk
of sounding corny, "hold true to the warmth of the wood".

Now, if I could take the feel of his work, and combine it with some rough
Stone structural elements, and/or maybe a few ancient-feeling artifacts,
well, *wow*...



At any rate, I'm really enjoying his gallery - this is a keeper, thanks
for the link!

- Kris

Posted by Michael Bulatovich on August 22, 2007, 9:26 am

>
>>
>>>
>>>> On 03 Aug 2007, Michael Bulatovich wrote
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael Bulatovich wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, but you're going to need real *craftsmen*.
>>>>>> Problem is, there are real crafts/men/women out there. But in
>>>>>> order to get them, sometimes you have to put a language
>>>>>> communications preference for the fore/man/woman into the
>>>>>> contract in order to get the quality details communicated to
>>>>>> the crafts/man/woman.
>>>>>
>>>>> With things the way they are, these people are busy, no matter
>>>>> what language they speak..
>>>>
>>>> And interestingly -- at least in the UK -- the top sub-contracting
>>>> artisans -- stonework, joiners, paint specialists -- don't actually
>>>> charge ridiculous prices.
>>>>
>>>> It's a very small world, but the really good ones seem to charge
>>>> *reasonable* prices. That rules them out of competitive tenders, but
>>>> invariably the lead consultants have to hire them anyway, and
>>>> there's not a lot of competition. (When there are only a handful of
>>>> people who can do the job, the issue comes down to "When you can fit
>>>> this in?" rather than "Can you beat their price?")
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's my impression from what I've seen at Artisan shows, at least
>>> where cabinetry is concerned. You can get something that is both
>>> hand-made *and*
>>> superb quality (*and* using nicer wood) for around the same price as
>>> you end up paying for a lot of the commercial crap.
>>
>> Here's the site of a guy who went to the faculty with me, and his mom
>> was .....the Dean:
>>
>> http://www.objectsandspaces.ca/
>>
>>
>
> Thanks - I have the site up now - I like his work :) Even in the things
> that look "simple", there are all sorts of little details that a subtle
> but elegant - and I definitely hesitated using that word, because it's
> become so cliche'd, but it does apply, and I can't think of a better one.
>
> Those curved dovetail joints really catch me. THe "logo tabe" is also
> striking.
>
> I also like that his work is "contemporary" (clean lines) without having
> that sterile, hard, cold feel I get from so much of what is called
> contemporary, and so much of what shows up in, er, "catalogues".
>
>
> Actually, to be honest, I usually might like a couple things by aperson,
> but it's rare for me to like so much of a person's work. I like the way
> he can combine the curve/arch with clean lines, while still, at the risk
> of sounding corny, "hold true to the warmth of the wood".
>
> Now, if I could take the feel of his work, and combine it with some rough
> Stone structural elements, and/or maybe a few ancient-feeling artifacts,
> well, *wow*...
>
>
>
> At any rate, I'm really enjoying his gallery - this is a keeper, thanks
> for the link!

Pass it around....I'm sure he could always use more work.
--


MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca



Posted by Kris Krieger on August 21, 2007, 5:11 pm

>
>>
>>> "HVS"> wrote
>>>> And interestingly -- at least in the UK -- the top sub-contracting
>>>> artisans -- stonework, joiners, paint specialists -- don't actually
>>>> charge ridiculous prices.
>>>>
>>>> It's a very small world, but the really good ones seem to charge
>>>> *reasonable* prices. That rules them out of competitive tenders,
>>>> but invariably the lead consultants have to hire them anyway, and
>>>> there's not a lot of competition. (When there are only a handful
>>>> of people who can do the job, the issue comes down to "When you can
>>>> fit this in?" rather than "Can you beat their price?")
>>>
>>> Interesting word, *reasonable* in this context.
>>> Whats reasonable?
>>
>> For artisan work? I would pay (and have done) quite significantly
>> more for
>> something crafted by a skilled artist/artisan, than I'd pay for the
>> cheap POS crap I see sold everywhere. Hell, I'd rather sit on a raw
>> log x- section than pay the appallingly high prices that stores
>> demand for the cheap shoddy bits of crap that get called "furniture".
>>
>>> In the world of construction you can do it on the cheap, knowing
>>> that you'll ditch the property in 5-7 years, and maybe come out
>>> ahead of the game. (leaving the next inhabitant to address the
>>> issues of replacing worn out cheap stuff)
>>> But if you intend to stay in a property for say, 20 years or so,
>>> then is it a cost benefit to go on the cheap?
>>> Clearly not.
>>> So it seems, that the word *reasonable* is somewhat dependent upon
>>> the overall use of the property.
>>> Is that a fair assessment?
>>>
>>
>> Well, in a way yes, in a way, no. IMO, that whole "disposable POS"
>> mentality is disgusting. But I can't blame the builders - I blame
>> people for buying it with that exact idea in mind - i.e. buy a POS,
>> and dump it (for some obscenely exhorbitant price) before it falls
>> completely apart. That idiocy (and the resulting crappy-looking
>> neighborhoods) is what happens when structures pass from being
>> "homes" and become nothing mroe than "short-term investments".
>>
>> So, of course the builders are goign to get away with as much as they
>> can. It's up to buyers to demand something better.
>
> IF a person is construction savvy and
> IF a person hires the right Home Inspector then
> the cheap things can be used AGAINST the seller when the deal goes
> down. In other words, it isn't always to the owners benefit to go the
> cheap route but that doesn't stop most homebuyers from doing exactly
> that. Frankly, I've found most *cheap* home buyers extremely naive.
> They just want a big box to store their bratz and their stuff for
> awhile.
>

Well, the last sentence unfortunatley holds all too true...



Posted by Michael \(LS\) on July 30, 2007, 2:52 pm

> When is it appropriate to use a pocket door?
>
> I have a corridor that will remain open 90% of the time as a corridor, but
> 10% of the time I may close off the corridor on both ends to form a closed
> off room.
>
> Right now it is serving this function by using two swing doors. Since I
am
> doing some remodeling in the adjacent rooms, I thought may be I should
> consider using pocket doors for both to make it look cleaner when the
doors
> are not necessary they are out of sight. Is this a proper use of a pocket
> door?
>
> Where would you locate the light switch since 32" of the wall would have
to
> be dedicated to the cavity of the door, I have to move it to the other
side
> right? but if the other side is an exterior wall with practically no room
> due to a window being there, I don't see an easy solution.
>
> MC
>
>

If at all possible I'd suggest making the pocket door wall/cavity a 2"x6"
Timberstrand wall. This will allow for the switch as well as minimize
warping issues down the road.

HTH,

Michael (LS)



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