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Posted by creative1985@gmail.com on July 28, 2009, 9:11 pm
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> > > On Jul 16, 6:31=A0pm, "creative1...@gmail.com" <creative1...@gmail.co=
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> > > wrote:
> > > > Se=F1ior Popcorn-Coconut> wrote:
> > > > > When the Americans set foot on the moon 40 years ago, the Soviets=
did
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> > > > > too.
> > > > They took off today, 40 years ago.
> > > > I remember it cause it was my parents anniversary.
> > > > I was 14.
> > > > How were the soviets involved?
> > > My point was that when people make achievements (or disasters, as the
> > > case may be), they do so in a sense on behalf of the rest of humanity=
> > > Humanity ultimately takes a certain credit for your corkscrew
> > > elevator. :)
> > I don't go for all that altruistic stuff.
> I wasn't talking at all about altruism, but even so, what about that
> volunteer work you were apparently going to do?
> > Whats mine is mine and what isn't, isn't.
> So the corkscrew elevator will just be yours and no one will benefit
> from it ever?
> > I don't take credit or responsibility for things I had nothing to do wi=
th.
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> As a fellow human, it would seem that you do whether you like it or
> not.
Nope. I don't play that.
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> > Have you noticed the role euphamasia plays today?
> I might have mentioned it on here in different words. Maybe it's a bit
> like sugar-coating one's accomplishments, or one's lifestyle, when
> it's not enough to just be.
> 7000 projects... I have a hard time doing maybe 3 a year. :)
How many TV shows have you watched in the last 30 years?
Everybody does lots of things, TV has just never been much of a
priority for me, so I do other stuff, projects for example, for money.
The people that find this difficult to comprehend haven't accomplished
much in their life because they haven't applied theirself.
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> f o c u s <
> As I finished writing this in the cafe I'm at, a young male just
> whizzed by in a lime-green Lambourghini. Can you rent these things, or
> if bought, would it be better to just throw your money away? Be
> altruistic?
I'd have to have a whole lotta money in order to have a countach, and
I really like em.
But, there's about 20 vehicles I'd prefer over them.
The countach is somewhat *single function* vehicle but I like to
multitask.
Might get me a jeep.
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Posted by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Se=F1ior_Popcor on July 29, 2009, 4:22 pm
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> > On Jul 18, 10:04=A0am, "creative1...@gmail.com" <creative1...@gmail.com=
> > wrote:
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> > > > On Jul 16, 6:31=A0pm, "creative1...@gmail.com" <creative1...@gmail.=
com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Se=F1ior Popcorn-Coconut> wrote:
> > > > > > When the Americans set foot on the moon 40 years ago, the Sovie=
ts did
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> > > > > > too.
> > > > > They took off today, 40 years ago.
> > > > > I remember it cause it was my parents anniversary.
> > > > > I was 14.
> > > > > How were the soviets involved?
> > > > My point was that when people make achievements (or disasters, as t=
> > > > case may be), they do so in a sense on behalf of the rest of humani=
ty.
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> > > > Humanity ultimately takes a certain credit for your corkscrew
> > > > elevator. :)
> > > I don't go for all that altruistic stuff.
> > I wasn't talking at all about altruism, but even so, what about that
> > volunteer work you were apparently going to do?
> > > Whats mine is mine and what isn't, isn't.
> > So the corkscrew elevator will just be yours and no one will benefit
> > from it ever?
> > > I don't take credit or responsibility for things I had nothing to do =
with.
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> > As a fellow human, it would seem that you do whether you like it or
> > not.
> Nope. I don't play that.
I qualified that in my previous post with 'represent'. We all
represent each other whether we like it or not. It's the idea where
someone digs up your bones aeons later. Your skull would represent a
human's. :)
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> > > Have you noticed the role euphamasia plays today?
> > I might have mentioned it on here in different words. Maybe it's a bit
> > like sugar-coating one's accomplishments, or one's lifestyle, when
> > it's not enough to just be.
> > 7000 projects... I have a hard time doing maybe 3 a year. :)
> How many TV shows have you watched in the last 30 years?
30? A fair bit; 7 years, however, very little, since I got rid of my
tv and only catch it on someone else's.
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> Everybody does lots of things, TV has just never been much of a
> priority for me, so I do other stuff, projects for example, for money.
> The people that find this difficult to comprehend haven't accomplished
> much in their life because they haven't applied theirself.
That's fine. I comprehend it, but I also comprehend that some people
also like to exaggerate. Kind of like euphemasia I guess.
And there are some who internalize the exaggerations of others and
think they have to do the same.
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> > f o c u s <
> > As I finished writing this in the cafe I'm at, a young male just
> > whizzed by in a lime-green Lambourghini. Can you rent these things, or
> > if bought, would it be better to just throw your money away? Be
> > altruistic?
> I'd have to have a whole lotta money in order to have a countach, and
> I really like em.
> But, there's about 20 vehicles I'd prefer over them.
> The countach is somewhat *single function* vehicle but I like to
> multitask.
> Might get me a jeep.
The point is (also) what you do with your money and even how it is
earned, such as if it is actual work?
A "Countach" is, in a sense, less than useless, but then you might
already have an idea of how I feel in general about cars. :) It wasn't
always that way, though, but you grow and maybe notice some deceptions
and lies.
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Posted by creative1985@gmail.com on August 3, 2009, 9:55 pm
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> Mr. Popcorn, no offense is intended but I think
> you are a nut.
> > > > Money can make money. You don't have to actually do any work, and y=
> > > > can employ others as "slaves".
> You're fundamentally mal-alligning capitalism.
> Example: I buy a $1000 chain-saw, I loan it to a friend who couldn't
> afford it, so he can cut his wood to make lumber, and I get 10% of
> the lumber, he gets the other 90%. He's NOT a "slave", he pays off
> his loan and establishes his own company, like Wal-Mart.
> (and build fire breaks while he cuts).
> Popcorn, I think you're a victim of BC thought control, that is
> leaning toward communism (anti-capitalism).
"The state is not the root of the "eeevil", it's the symptom."
The root of the problem is laziness and dishonesty, both a product of
two of the basest human emotions/motivations: fear and greed.
To state it another way: humanity involves, most simply, the conscious
and principled discipline and control of fear and greed, which one has
no choice but to experience as a higher biological organism.
A good way to think about how the non-human homo sapiens respond to
fear and greed is that they seek to hoard profits and spread losses.
The chief motivation is laziness and chief tool to satisfy all is
dishonesty.
The interesting thing about dishonesty -- self, other directed, and
institutionalized -- is that the better one is at it (the more
dishonest) the less detectable and more powerful it is.
What's interesting about laziness is how hard people work at not
producing tradeable values.
Consider a bum on the exit ramp day in, day out.
I've seen some of them work their asses off at begging in the hot,
cold, and rainy for years on end.
How much easier it would be to work at a job.
It's the labor theory of value.
The lazy look to a world where raw physical activity, disconnected
from any other requirements, is of paramount value.
To look at it in its plainest form, there are those advocating that
some fears are just too great not to force others to pay for general
anesthesia, and the argument turns on which anesthesia and in what
dosage is most "efficient" and "useful."
Hey, maybe we can "privatize" the production and delivery of it, which
still doesn't address the root laziness, dishonesty, individual
responsibility or accountability.
Then there are those, "the nouveaux ancaps," who rightfully understand
that you can't hold consistently to individualist principle and
advocate any degree of state coercion, but have failed to understand
that the state is an effect of a deeper problem (as outlined above).
They think that you have to win friends and influence people by trying
to explain that life would be so much better without the state.
But you can't truly understand anarchism until you accept that it
doesn't matter what society "would be like" without the state.
It's not the issue.
The issue is that nobody has any right to chain me to their fears or
satisfy their greed at my involuntary expense and anyone who thinks
otherwise, even just a little tiny bit can just go fuck right off and
there's simply no kind way to put that.
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Posted by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Se=F1ior_Popcor on August 4, 2009, 7:27 pm
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> A good way to think about how the non-human homo sapiens respond to
> fear and greed is that they seek to hoard profits and spread losses.
> The chief motivation is laziness and chief tool to satisfy all is
> dishonesty.
I kind of agree with you, but might take exception to laziness
depending on your definition of it.
I think a little bit of work is required for survival, happiness and
health, but nowhere near the arbitrary 40-hour work-week. It just
seems like one of the many wools pulled over people's eyes.
It is an embarrassment and a humiliation.
"You're living in a dream world, Neo."
"The Matrix is the world pulled over your eyes to blind you from the
truth."
"What truth?"
"That you are a slave, Neo."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N50NRQB99Sw&feature=related
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> The interesting thing about dishonesty -- self, other directed, and
> institutionalized -- is that the better one is at it (the more
> dishonest) the less detectable and more powerful it is.
> What's interesting about laziness is how hard people work at not
> producing tradeable values.
> Consider a bum on the exit ramp day in, day out.
> I've seen some of them work their asses off at begging in the hot,
> cold, and rainy for years on end.
> How much easier it would be to work at a job.
> It's the labor theory of value.
> The lazy look to a world where raw physical activity, disconnected
> from any other requirements, is of paramount value.
> To look at it in its plainest form, there are those advocating that
> some fears are just too great not to force others to pay for general
> anesthesia, and the argument turns on which anesthesia and in what
> dosage is most "efficient" and "useful."
> Hey, maybe we can "privatize" the production and delivery of it, which
> still doesn't address the root laziness, dishonesty, individual
> responsibility or accountability.
> Then there are those, "the nouveaux ancaps," who rightfully understand
> that you can't hold consistently to individualist principle and
> advocate any degree of state coercion, but have failed to understand
> that the state is an effect of a deeper problem (as outlined above).
> They think that you have to win friends and influence people by trying
> to explain that life would be so much better without the state.
> But you can't truly understand anarchism until you accept that it
> doesn't matter what society "would be like" without the state.
> It's not the issue.
> The issue is that nobody has any right to chain me to their fears or
> satisfy their greed at my involuntary expense and anyone who thinks
> otherwise, even just a little tiny bit can just go fuck right off and
> there's simply no kind way to put that.
Perhaps we're both trying to articulate our own brand of trying to
wake up from Plato's Cave... and we can't... struggling forever with
the chains of paradox and contradiction where our only freedom will be
in our eventual deaths.
"Have you ever had a dream, Neo, that you were so sure was real? What
if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the
difference between the dream world and the real world?"
--The Matrix
Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
Thus much let me avow-
You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream;
Yet if hope has flown away
In a night, or in a day,
In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.
I stand amid the roar
Of a surf-tormented shore,
And I hold within my hand
Grains of the golden sand-
How few! yet how they creep
Through my fingers to the deep,
While I weep- while I weep!
O God! can I not grasp
Them with a tighter clasp?
O God! can I not save
One from the pitiless wave?
Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?
-- E.A. Poe, "A Dream Within A Dream"
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Posted by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Se=F1ior_Popcor on August 4, 2009, 5:47 pm
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> Mr. Popcorn, no offense is intended
Likewise.
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> but I think you are a nut.
> > > > Money can make money. You don't have to actually do any work, and y=
> > > > can employ others as "slaves".
> You're fundamentally mal-alligning capitalism.
> Example: I buy a $1000 chain-saw, I loan it to a friend who couldn't
> afford it, so he can cut his wood to make lumber, and I get 10% of
> the lumber, he gets the other 90%. He's NOT a "slave", he pays off
> his loan and establishes his own company, like Wal-Mart.
> (and build fire breaks while he cuts).
> Popcorn, I think you're a victim of BC thought control, that is
> leaning toward communism (anti-capitalism).
Nothing like a little BC bud before posting, ay? A little Green for
those thoughtful moments? Something the Greens would love legalized?
Something to enjoy while we putz around in our govermonk-funded 5-
star?
I was listening to a song while reading one of your posts awhile back,
and it hit me how well it went with it. Like a theme song or
something. I'll upload it when I get the chance. It's "You, The Night,
and The Music", by 'Tones On Tail'.
You couldn't make this stuff up.
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> > > What you call work I might call play and vice versa.
> > > I suggest that everyone should find a way to turn something fun into
> > > income and then play the rest of their lives away.
> Yup, it's called "finding your niche".
It's also what high-school career counsellors call it.
When you're born, you have arrived in your niche. You don't have to
find it, it's already there. If some fuck it up, then ya, you have to
"find your niche" until your original one can be restored.
At least that's how the idea goes.
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> > Survival, reproduction and/or well-being aren't necessarily very hard
> > to achieve... although I wonder if there might be some kind of info
> > with regard to, say, the reconciliation or compromise between high-
> > tech, community agriculture, and hunting-and-gathering.
> > > ~"Look Up To The Sky"~
> > If you find rain, send it to Ken for us. :)
> Check out this photo,http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009=
/08/02/bc-fintry-...
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> we're a little to the right off the photo, our lake is in the
> foreground.
Page not found.
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> Yesterday, we took some vinyl siding and built a wind vane andhttp://en.w=
ikipedia.org/wiki/Anemometer
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> installed off a beam up in a tree to monitor winds.
I saw something in Your Tube recently-- a home-made wind-turbine to
generate electricity that seems deceptively simple.
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> > > On Jul 16, 6:31=A0pm, "creative1...@gmail.com" <creative1...@gmail.co=
m>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Se=F1ior Popcorn-Coconut> wrote:
> > > > > When the Americans set foot on the moon 40 years ago, the Soviets=