Re: Can you imagine a time....

>> ....say as little as 50 years from now when people will voluntarily
>> have their extremities removed because prosthetics will be far
>> superior to the hindrances you were born with?
>> Computer driven with all the bells and whistles with 1000gb of ram
>> and the
>
>> ability to do that which even young people cannot do.
>> Run 1 minute miles with Michelin treads on your dawgz.
>> Read Britannica in 2 minutes.
>> Before going to bed you will program your extremities for the events
>> of th
> e
>> following day so that you might get done all of the things you had
>> planned
> .
>> 120 wpm? right.
>> Why not 9000 words per minute?
>> Write 300 emails in 3 seconds.
>> Just sit there and watch it happen.
>> Think it and its done.
>> Artificial eyes that allow you to browse 500 blogs simultaneously and
>> reta
> in
>> everything in your outboard ram which filters into your 1000
>> terrabyte swappable HD.
>> Nobody has time for grocery shopping anymore, get your chemical fix
>> online
>
>> via USB 12.0.
>> Wanna buzz, hit F115.
>> The spine is the cortex, imagine flexible ribs, where with the blink
>> of an
>
>> eye you can *swim*, underwater, to europe, in 15 minutes.
>> Faster than flying, and no cavity searches.
>> What cavities?
>> The ones packed with loonies of course.
>
> I think you've watched "The Matrix" one too many times.
>

>
>>>> ....say as little as 50 years from now when people will voluntarily
>>>> have their extremities removed because prosthetics will be far
>>>> superior to the hindrances you were born with?
>>>> Computer driven with all the bells and whistles with 1000gb of ram
>>>> and the
>>>> ability to do that which even young people cannot do.
>>>> Run 1 minute miles with Michelin treads on your dawgz.
>>>> Read Britannica in 2 minutes.
>>>> Before going to bed you will program your extremities for the
>>>> events of th
>>> e
>>>> following day so that you might get done all of the things you had
>>>> planned
>>> .
>>>> 120 wpm? right.
>>>> Why not 9000 words per minute?
>>>> Write 300 emails in 3 seconds.
>>>> Just sit there and watch it happen.
>>>> Think it and its done.
>>>> Artificial eyes that allow you to browse 500 blogs simultaneously
>>>> and reta
>>> in
>>>> everything in your outboard ram which filters into your 1000
>>>> terrabyte swappable HD.
>>>> Nobody has time for grocery shopping anymore, get your chemical fix
>>>> online
>>>> via USB 12.0.
>>>> Wanna buzz, hit F115.
>>>> The spine is the cortex, imagine flexible ribs, where with the
>>>> blink of an
>>>> eye you can *swim*, underwater, to europe, in 15 minutes.
>>>> Faster than flying, and no cavity searches.

>>>> What cavities?
>>>> The ones packed with loonies of course.
>>> I think you've watched "The Matrix" one too many times.
>> OTOH, I wouldn't mind a new knee at some point ;)
>> Some portable RAM wouldn't be bad, either, but don't they call that
>> "a laptop"...?
>> Actually, all of this stuff (and the popular enchantment with doing
>> the proverbial, if aprocyphal, "lemming thing") has long been a
>> staple of Speculative Fiction and "SciFi", so at least some people
>> have been pondering th etopic for a quite a few years.
>
> My, now dead, brother had a small computer in his chest to regulate
> his heartbeat and I just found out my sister has one too.
> Loads of people have had joint replacements and the lifespan on the
> replacements are something like 10 times that of the OEM.
> Slowly but surely all of the parts are being replaced, one by one, and
> this thing is going faster and faster all the time.
> My 50 year prediction was too far into the future......
> Heard about that new dual layer chip?
> 3 trillion processes per second.....Moores Law lives!

>
>>>> m:
>>>>>> ....say as little as 50 years from now when people will
>>>>>> voluntarily have their extremities removed because prosthetics
>>>>>> will be far superior to the hindrances you were born with?
>>>>>> Computer driven with all the bells and whistles with 1000gb of
>>>>>> ram and the
>>>>>> ability to do that which even young people cannot do.
>>>>>> Run 1 minute miles with Michelin treads on your dawgz.
>>>>>> Read Britannica in 2 minutes.
>>>>>> Before going to bed you will program your extremities for the
>>>>>> events of th
>>>>> e
>>>>>> following day so that you might get done all of the things you
>>>>>> had planned
>>>>> .
>>>>>> 120 wpm? right.
>>>>>> Why not 9000 words per minute?
>>>>>> Write 300 emails in 3 seconds.
>>>>>> Just sit there and watch it happen.
>>>>>> Think it and its done.
>>>>>> Artificial eyes that allow you to browse 500 blogs simultaneously
>>>>>> and reta
>>>>> in
>>>>>> everything in your outboard ram which filters into your 1000
>>>>>> terrabyte swappable HD.
>>>>>> Nobody has time for grocery shopping anymore, get your chemical
>>>>>> fix online
>>>>>> via USB 12.0.
>>>>>> Wanna buzz, hit F115.
>>>>>> The spine is the cortex, imagine flexible ribs, where with the
>>>>>> blink of an
>>>>>> eye you can *swim*, underwater, to europe, in 15 minutes.
>>>>>> Faster than flying, and no cavity searches.
>> Actually, I might be wrong but I didn't think that was possible, due
>> to hydrodynamics and th e density of water...
>
> A marlin can do 60+ mph and it has built in limitations.
> Have you seen those boat hulls that create a cushion of air to cause
> the water to move faster along the bottom of the boat?
>
>>>>>> What cavities?
>>>>>> The ones packed with loonies of course.
>>>>> I think you've watched "The Matrix" one too many times.
>>>> OTOH, I wouldn't mind a new knee at some point ;)
>>>> Some portable RAM wouldn't be bad, either, but don't they call that
>>>> "a laptop"...?
>>>> Actually, all of this stuff (and the popular enchantment with doing
>>>> the proverbial, if aprocyphal, "lemming thing") has long been a
>>>> staple of Speculative Fiction and "SciFi", so at least some people
>>>> have been pondering th etopic for a quite a few years.
>>> My, now dead, brother had a small computer in his chest to regulate
>>> his heartbeat and I just found out my sister has one too.
>>> Loads of people have had joint replacements and the lifespan on the
>>> replacements are something like 10 times that of the OEM.
>>> Slowly but surely all of the parts are being replaced, one by one,
>>> and this thing is going faster and faster all the time.
>>> My 50 year prediction was too far into the future......
>>> Heard about that new dual layer chip?
>>> 3 trillion processes per second.....Moores Law lives!
>> Shoot, I wouldn't mind a new knee myself.
>
> There's at least 1 new knee joint in my future and possibly 2 hip
> joints.

> Not looking forward to it, even though the several people I
> know that have had it done said they wish they hadn't waited so long.
> My error was in watching the hip procedure on the Learning channel on
> a show called The Operation, a few years ago.
> It was terrifying to see that.

>

>>>> Shoot, I wouldn't mind a new knee myself.
>>> There's at least 1 new knee joint in my future and possibly 2 hip
>>> joints.
>> Ugh, my sympathies - that must make getting around really difficult;
>> one of my friends has arthritic hips, and it's a struggle.
>
> Currently none of it is a major issue as long as I'm careful.

> I've been carrying the hip pain for more than 30 years and the knee
> thing is somewhat recent, about maybe 3 years now.

> Its the right knee and if I bend all the way down, like into a squat,
> then stand up I can't put much pressure on that knee cause if I do,
> bang, out of joint it goes and its weird man.
> Call it morbid, but I ride the edge and its scary.
> When it pops out I have to immediately get it back in cause the pain
> is exponential, going from unbearable to downright murderous in about
> 15 seconds.

> Last time it happened I was in an unusual place and could not quickly
> get it straightened back out cause I collapsed and landed on it with
> my full weight, while it was out of joint, folded under me.
> Jeeziss, I had to lift myself off the ground with one hand and use the
> other to pull the leg out straight, very difficult to do, and the
> whole time the pain was going through the moon.
> I was drenched in sweat and shaking uncontrollably and was emotionally
> drained, all in about 30 seconds.
> Like I said, scary.
> I've studied pictures of knee anatomu online and I think I see what
> the problem is but I have no idea how they would fix it.
> A ligament is apparently stretched and its not keeping the joint tight
> together.

>
>>> Not looking forward to it, even though the several people I
>>> know that have had it done said they wish they hadn't waited so
>>> long. My error was in watching the hip procedure on the Learning
>>> channel on a show called The Operation, a few years ago.
>>> It was terrifying to see that.
>> Surgery is never something one should choose lightly, because there
>> are risks in both the surgery, and the anaesthesia - the main thing
>> is to go to the best surgeon possible.
>> Operations can be rough to watch, because most people aren't trained
>> to see past the bleeding in surgery, and to realize that there is far
>> less in surgery than there is on injury or butchery - surgical
>> techniques seek to minimize blood loss.
>> Once you get past that aspect, tho', the mechanics are fascinating.
>
> It was the mechanics of the thing that blew me away, the blood and
> guts thing doesn't bother me.
> Those Dr's were using tools like would be found on a workbench on that
> poor guy.
> Hammers, chisels, etc., and they were laying some serious ass itno
> getting the work done.
> Carving that old wore out socket out of the pelvis was the worst part,
> they literally chiseld it out like you would chisel out a lockset on a
> door. Man, I'm cringing just remembering it.
> Then when the leg was completely disassociated from the pelvis it just

>
>> My main worry, in your situation, would be the ability to find a top
>> surgeon, simply becasue you're so far out from any major medical
>> center. You might have to travel a ways...
>
> When it gets to the point that I have to get serious with it I'll do
> the homework and then travel to where I need to to have stuff done I
> guess. As of right now, I don't see that in my immediate future, but
> we ain't getting any younger.......

>
>> [snip]
>>>>>> Shoot, I wouldn't mind a new knee myself.
>>>>> There's at least 1 new knee joint in my future and possibly 2 hip
>>>>> joints.
>>>> Ugh, my sympathies - that must make getting around really
>>>> difficult; one of my friends has arthritic hips, and it's a
>>>> struggle.
>>> Currently none of it is a major issue as long as I'm careful.
>> THat's good at least.
>>> I've been carrying the hip pain for more than 30 years and the knee
>>> thing is somewhat recent, about maybe 3 years now.
>> THat kind of sucks. I know the thing about "soldiering through it",
>> but all in all, pain, well, sucks.
>>> Its the right knee and if I bend all the way down, like into a
>>> squat, then stand up I can't put much pressure on that knee cause if
>>> I do, bang, out of joint it goes and its weird man.
>>> Call it morbid, but I ride the edge and its scary.
>>> When it pops out I have to immediately get it back in cause the pain
>>> is exponential, going from unbearable to downright murderous in
>>> about 15 seconds.
>> Holy crap! I just have some arthritis. What you have sounds
>> dangerous, if it goes out when you're 40' up a ladder or something.
>>> Last time it happened I was in an unusual place and could not
>>> quickly get it straightened back out cause I collapsed and landed on
>>> it with my full weight, while it was out of joint, folded under me.
>>> Jeeziss, I had to lift myself off the ground with one hand and use
>>> the other to pull the leg out straight, very difficult to do, and
>>> the whole time the pain was going through the moon.
>>> I was drenched in sweat and shaking uncontrollably and was
>>> emotionally drained, all in about 30 seconds.
>>> Like I said, scary.
>>> I've studied pictures of knee anatomu online and I think I see what
>>> the problem is but I have no idea how they would fix it.
>>> A ligament is apparently stretched and its not keeping the joint
>>> tight together.
>> I'm pretty sure there are methods of dealing with that, but I
>> unfortunately don't know any of the specifics.
>>>>> Not looking forward to it, even though the several people I
>>>>> know that have had it done said they wish they hadn't waited so
>>>>> long. My error was in watching the hip procedure on the Learning
>>>>> channel on a show called The Operation, a few years ago.
>>>>> It was terrifying to see that.
>>>> Surgery is never something one should choose lightly, because there
>>>> are risks in both the surgery, and the anaesthesia - the main thing
>>>> is to go to the best surgeon possible.
>>>> Operations can be rough to watch, because most people aren't
>>>> trained to see past the bleeding in surgery, and to realize that
>>>> there is far less in surgery than there is on injury or butchery -
>>>> surgical techniques seek to minimize blood loss.
>>>> Once you get past that aspect, tho', the mechanics are fascinating.
>>> It was the mechanics of the thing that blew me away, the blood and
>>> guts thing doesn't bother me.
>>> Those Dr's were using tools like would be found on a workbench on
>>> that poor guy.
>>> Hammers, chisels, etc., and they were laying some serious ass itno
>>> getting the work done.
>>> Carving that old wore out socket out of the pelvis was the worst
>>> part, they literally chiseld it out like you would chisel out a
>>> lockset on a door. Man, I'm cringing just remembering it.
>>> Then when the leg was completely disassociated from the pelvis it
>> I guess it is pretty bothersome to most people. I guess that with
>> most people, the body *is* teh self, at least to a alrge degree, but
>> to me, it's more like an often-annoying biological machine that my
>> brain rides around in.
>> The reconstructive part doesn't get me too badly becasue I know that
>> it's being done to fix the problem, but the worst thing I ever saw
>> during OR rotation (yes, as bizarre as it seems, I actually tried 2
>> years of nursing school...) was an amputation, because that wasn't a
>> repair, but a removal, and this guy could neve rafford a
>> well-functioning prosthetic, meaning he'd be in a wheelschair - so
>> the situation was not good.
>
> Thats got to be one of the toughest things to deal with, amputation,
> the removal of a part of your body.
> The larger the removal, say a leg or an arm, the worse the
> psychological trauma.

> I've heard of phantom feelings associated with that stuff, where the
> *gone* limb continues to *feed* info to the brain.

> I hope I never have to deal with that.