Home Page link

Re: Concealing the bottom of the kitchen cabinets

Home| Search | About
Login Password
Register Now! Lost Password?

Architecture and Design - Building design/construction and related topics. 

Page 1 of 2       1 2 > last >> Bookmark this page:  YahooMyWeb Yahoo!  Google Google  Windows Live Favorites Windows Live  del.icio.us del.icio.us  digg digg  Add to Netscape Netscape
Subject Author Date
Re: Concealing the bottom of the kitchen cabinets RicodJour 11-24-2007
If you were  Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options
Posted by RicodJour on November 24, 2007, 12:52 am
>
> Brand new cabinets to be custom constructed. I wouldn't consider cantilever
> because of the weight and I know I have stood on the counter top and I have
> to make sure it could support two people having sex on it from time to time.
>
> Also if it is fully cantilever it will be difficult to clean whatever that
> is spilled under.
>
> I am talking about just recessing it further in, instead of recessing it a
> standard 2-3", to recess it say 8"-10", the cabinets are 24" deep, about
> 24-3/4" including the doors.

It can be done, but it's not a great option. Maintenance,
functionality and aesthetics could be better addressed in other ways
than an extra deep toe kick.

How about changing the question to - what could I do to make the toe
kicks more interesting? You'll get more out of your ? that way.

R

Posted by RicodJour on November 25, 2007, 11:09 am
>
> My suggestion, go with a 6"high x 4" deep kick, with drawers. If you have
> pets you could do like I did on a job and put pull-out water/food bowls
> (with an in-cabinet faucet to fill said water bowl!). The other drawers
> could be used for things like cookie sheets, seasonal/rarely used
> platters/dishes etc. Then I'd install LED rope light or fiber-optic lights
> under the base cabinets (they could even be wired to a timer or light sensor
> to act as a night light).

I've done the drawer thing and it's a great place to store things.
The dog bowl idea is interesting, but odd. Generally, both me and the
dog prefer to have his water accessible at all times. Where's the
benefit it having it slide out of the way, and when it's extended
blocking the area in front of the cabinet?

> Other common toe-kick ideas: Arch the top, angle the ends, flat kick with
> decorative "feet" in front, etc. If you've got central vac don't forget to
> also consider a toe-kick spot, same goes for possible HVAC ducts.

Or run the flooring up in a curve to form the toe kick space - kind
of like a sanitary cove.

> Depending upon the size of the kitchen, you might be best served by a
> combination of different kick styles & no kick in areas where they're not
> needed.

I think that advice might be a bit dangerous in some people's hands/
minds. It would tend to look like a mish mash of styles unless done
carefully.

R

Posted by Michael \(LS\) on November 25, 2007, 8:21 pm

> >
> > My suggestion, go with a 6"high x 4" deep kick, with drawers. If you
have
> > pets you could do like I did on a job and put pull-out water/food bowls
> > (with an in-cabinet faucet to fill said water bowl!). The other drawers
> > could be used for things like cookie sheets, seasonal/rarely used
> > platters/dishes etc. Then I'd install LED rope light or fiber-optic
lights
> > under the base cabinets (they could even be wired to a timer or light
sensor
> > to act as a night light).
>
> I've done the drawer thing and it's a great place to store things.
> The dog bowl idea is interesting, but odd. Generally, both me and the
> dog prefer to have his water accessible at all times. Where's the
> benefit it having it slide out of the way, and when it's extended
> blocking the area in front of the cabinet?

I guess I didn't give the full picture. The food dish (2 of them since the
client has 2 dogs) were put into a pullout drawer. I put the water dish
into a different pullout drawer (with faucet in the cabinet) and used a
retractable pocket door at the water dish area. So most of the time the
dish is accessible, but it's also possible to close the door and look "pet
free". I did this in a large walk-thru pantry between the kitchen & garage
entry (and across the hall from the mudroom with dog shower). The bowls are
in cabinets furthest from the kitchen (closest to the mudroom) so they're
not in the way of normal pantry usage.

> > Other common toe-kick ideas: Arch the top, angle the ends, flat kick
with
> > decorative "feet" in front, etc. If you've got central vac don't forget
to
> > also consider a toe-kick spot, same goes for possible HVAC ducts.
>
> Or run the flooring up in a curve to form the toe kick space - kind
> of like a sanitary cove.

Depending upon the flooring material that could be very nice.

> > Depending upon the size of the kitchen, you might be best served by a
> > combination of different kick styles & no kick in areas where they're
not
> > needed.
>
> I think that advice might be a bit dangerous in some people's hands/
> minds. It would tend to look like a mish mash of styles unless done
> carefully.

Well, I'm assuming that someone with some amount of design talent will be
involved. If not, at least I don't have to look at it!!!


Michael (LS)



Posted by Michael \(LS\) on November 25, 2007, 9:00 pm

>
> > >
> > > My suggestion, go with a 6"high x 4" deep kick, with drawers. If you
> have
> > > pets you could do like I did on a job and put pull-out water/food
bowls
> > > (with an in-cabinet faucet to fill said water bowl!). The other
drawers
> > > could be used for things like cookie sheets, seasonal/rarely used
> > > platters/dishes etc. Then I'd install LED rope light or fiber-optic
> lights
> > > under the base cabinets (they could even be wired to a timer or light
> sensor
> > > to act as a night light).
> >
> > I've done the drawer thing and it's a great place to store things.
> > The dog bowl idea is interesting, but odd. Generally, both me and the
> > dog prefer to have his water accessible at all times. Where's the
> > benefit it having it slide out of the way, and when it's extended
> > blocking the area in front of the cabinet?
>
> I guess I didn't give the full picture. The food dish (2 of them since
the
> client has 2 dogs) were put into a pullout drawer. I put the water dish
> into a different pullout drawer (with faucet in the cabinet) and used a
> retractable pocket door at the water dish area. So most of the time the
> dish is accessible, but it's also possible to close the door and look "pet
> free". I did this in a large walk-thru pantry between the kitchen &
garage
> entry (and across the hall from the mudroom with dog shower). The bowls
are
> in cabinets furthest from the kitchen (closest to the mudroom) so they're
> not in the way of normal pantry usage.
>
> > > Other common toe-kick ideas: Arch the top, angle the ends, flat kick
> with
> > > decorative "feet" in front, etc. If you've got central vac don't
forget
> to
> > > also consider a toe-kick spot, same goes for possible HVAC ducts.
> >
> > Or run the flooring up in a curve to form the toe kick space - kind
> > of like a sanitary cove.
>
> Depending upon the flooring material that could be very nice.
>
> > > Depending upon the size of the kitchen, you might be best served by a
> > > combination of different kick styles & no kick in areas where they're
> not
> > > needed.
> >
> > I think that advice might be a bit dangerous in some people's hands/
> > minds. It would tend to look like a mish mash of styles unless done
> > carefully.
>
> Well, I'm assuming that someone with some amount of design talent will be
> involved. If not, at least I don't have to look at it!!!
>
>
> Michael (LS)
>
>

I don't think anyone has mention using the toe kick for a pullout step
(which is fairly common). If the kick is high enough it can be a very
usable step, especially if there are kids who need help reaching the sink,
or for grown ups to reach the upper part of the upper cabinets.

Michael (LS)



Posted by Lou on November 25, 2007, 9:29 pm
You want to make them dissapear?????
Try the old magicians trick. Make them out of mirrors.
Lou

Page 1 of 2       1 2 > last >>
Similar ThreadsPosted
programs for tiles and bath planning, kitchen 3D, interior 3D, landscape 3D, May 3, 2006, 3:12 pm

Contact Us | Privacy Policy

XML SitemapXML Sitemap