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Re: Corn prices Kris Krieger 05-09-2008
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Posted by Kris Krieger on May 9, 2008, 6:11 pm

> "Pat"> wrote
>>I was up the road talking to a farmer. The only corn he sells is at a
>> roadside stand. He planted LESS corn this year for sale. He figures
>> that corn prices are going to be so high that people will be buying
>> less, so he's planting less so he isn't caught with extra corn.
>> Hmmmm.
>
> Less is more.
> That roadside stuff is going on around here all the time.
> The farmer can grow 40 acres of corn and sell it to the gov't
> (ethanol) for X and then pay taxes on the X.
> Or.
> He can grow 10 acres and sell it locally for X (due to gov't induced
> increase in price) and keep all of it.
> Its not rocket surgery.
> The gov't long ago priced itself out of the market.
>

And personally, I'd much prefer paying farmers directly for produce, even a
the same price, because it's not like most of them make all that great a
living by farming - plus, it's so much fresher, and usually just-picked, as
opposed to spending 3-7 days being shipped. And it's local.

I have to fine a farmer's market here (havent' yet), but in the past, I've
always gone to them, and/or local farmer's stands. The quality is jsut so
much better, and it benefits the farmers more.



Posted by Amy Blankenship on May 10, 2008, 9:54 am


> Looks like they rotate the crops around here, one year its corn and the
> next year its soybeans, guess it has sumfink to do with the nutrients in
> the soil.
> Soy facilitates corn and vice versa.
> Anyway, we went to the county fair last year and what do you think
> everybody was walking around chomping on?
> Yep, butter-dripping con on the cobs. Mmmmmm....
> Nuthin like corn butter dripping off the bottom of your chin and running
> down your arms.

Legumes feed the soil, and corn depletes it.



Posted by Kris Krieger on May 10, 2008, 1:50 pm

>
>>
>>> "Pat"> wrote
>>>>I was up the road talking to a farmer. The only corn he sells is at
>>>>a
>>>> roadside stand. He planted LESS corn this year for sale. He
>>>> figures that corn prices are going to be so high that people will
>>>> be buying less, so he's planting less so he isn't caught with extra
>>>> corn. Hmmmm.
>>>
>>> Less is more.
>>> That roadside stuff is going on around here all the time.
>>> The farmer can grow 40 acres of corn and sell it to the gov't
>>> (ethanol) for X and then pay taxes on the X.
>>> Or.
>>> He can grow 10 acres and sell it locally for X (due to gov't induced
>>> increase in price) and keep all of it.
>>> Its not rocket surgery.
>>> The gov't long ago priced itself out of the market.
>>>
>>
>> And personally, I'd much prefer paying farmers directly for produce,
>> even a
>> the same price, because it's not like most of them make all that
>> great a living by farming - plus, it's so much fresher, and usually
>> just-picked, as
>> opposed to spending 3-7 days being shipped. And it's local.
>>
>> I have to fine a farmer's market here (havent' yet), but in the past,
>> I've always gone to them, and/or local farmer's stands. The quality
>> is jsut so much better, and it benefits the farmers more.
>
> There's a small mom n pop grocery store over in Bean Blossom about 1.5
> miles from here and along the way there is no less than 5 small farms
> that have stuff forsale on the front porch - the honor system.
> Corn: 25 cents an ear, tomatoes: 50 cents each, cucumbers for a
> quarter, etc.
> Interestingly the mom n pop has a small section in the produce area
> where they sell the local stuff and its always less expensive than the
> brand name stuff though some of it is not so purty.
> My thinking is, it all ends up in the septic tank the next day so what
> does it matter what it looks like?
> FWIW I don't eat much corn, its all sugar = baggage.
> Maybe 3 times a year and 2 of them will be corn on the cob.

Re: appearance, it's been said for at elast 3 decades that one of the
largest contributors to food prices in the US has to do with appearance -
if there is even the smallest blemish, groceries will often reject
produce because people "don't like the looks of it".

Interestingly, neither being completely unripe, nor hard as a baseball,
counts as a blemish - go figure...esp. givent hat fruit does NOT ripen
when it's picked green and left to sit - sure, some of th estarches
convert to sugars, but the fruit is not taking up any more water or soil
nutrients or anything. So it's not ripening, it's just aging.

Concommitantly, I read a couple months ago that stufies show the
nutritive value of crops is actually *declining*, because they're forced
to grow too fast and -yup! - picked while unripe.


Re: corn, I like it with grilled steak and white lima beans (I boil the
dried beans in low-sodium 99% fat free free range chicken broth). I l
like to pop teh cobs into boiling water for just a couple minutes, so it
gets just soft enough so the bits don't stick under my gums
(yeah, I know, what an old fart =:-o)
and eat it plain. No butter, yuck.

It's also good left in th ehusk, wrapped in foil, and grilled - it sort-
of steams.

It's not bad for you, it's just bad to eat *too much* (that includes 'too
often', because it is so starchy/sugary - OTOH, it's certainly no worse
than pasta or white rice...). It's fine as one small part of a balanced
and varied diet.



Posted by Kris Krieger on May 10, 2008, 1:58 pm

>
> .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >> "Pat"> wrote
>>> >>>I was up the road talking to a farmer. The only corn he sells is
>>> >>>at a
>>> >>> roadside stand. He planted LESS corn this year for sale. He
>>> >>> figures that corn prices are going to be so high that people
>>> >>> will be buying less, so he's planting less so he isn't caught
>>> >>> with extra corn. Hmmmm.
>>>
>>> >> Less is more.
>>> >> That roadside stuff is going on around here all the time.
>>> >> The farmer can grow 40 acres of corn and sell it to the gov't
>>> >> (ethanol) for X and then pay taxes on the X.
>>> >> Or.
>>> >> He can grow 10 acres and sell it locally for X (due to gov't
>>> >> induced increase in price) and keep all of it.
>>> >> Its not rocket surgery.
>>> >> The gov't long ago priced itself out of the market.
>>>
>>> > And personally, I'd much prefer paying farmers directly for
>>> > produce, even
>>> > a
>>> > the same price, because it's not like most of them make all that
>>> > great a
>>> > living by farming - plus, it's so much fresher, and usually
>>> > just-picked,
>>> > as
>>> > opposed to spending 3-7 days being shipped. And it's local.
>>>
>>> > I have to fine a farmer's market here (havent' yet), but in the
>>> > past, I've
>>> > always gone to them, and/or local farmer's stands. The quality is
>>> > jsut so
>>> > much better, and it benefits the farmers more.
>>>
>>> There's a small mom n pop grocery store over in Bean Blossom about
>>> 1.5 miles
>>> from here and along the way there is no less than 5 small farms that
>>> have stuff forsale on the front porch - the honor system.
>>> Corn: 25 cents an ear, tomatoes: 50 cents each, cucumbers for a
>>> quarter, etc.
>>> Interestingly the mom n pop has a small section in the produce area
>>> where they sell the local stuff and its always less expensive than
>>> the brand name
>>> stuff though some of it is not so purty.
>>> My thinking is, it all ends up in the septic tank the next day so
>>> what does
>>> it matter what it looks like?
>>> FWIW I don't eat much corn, its all sugar = baggage.
>>> Maybe 3 times a year and 2 of them will be corn on the cob.
>>
>> As a brat *Corn on the Cob* was my ABSOLUTE
>> favorite, hot dogs was a distant 2nd.
>> NEVER EVER disparage C-on-C in my presence.
>> I love it when wife freezes some and serves it at
>> X-mas time, yummy.
>> Ken
>
> Looks like they rotate the crops around here, one year its corn and
> the next year its soybeans, guess it has sumfink to do with the
> nutrients in the soil.
> Soy facilitates corn and vice versa.

Soybean is a legume, so it takes nitrogen from the air and fixes it into
the soil in a form that other plants can use - sort-of like free
fertilizer.

> Anyway, we went to the county fair last year and what do you think
> everybody was walking around chomping on?
> Yep, butter-dripping con on the cobs. Mmmmmm....
> Nuthin like corn butter dripping off the bottom of your chin and
> running down your arms.

I could do without the butter - I use a little butter on average MAYBE
once a month. I just lost the taste for it. If I need to "butter" a
pan, I use either X-tr virgin olive oil, or walnut oil (which is
lighter), or even lighter, almond oil if I have some on hand. If I want
to pan "fry" somethign like battered catfish (which is a PITA so I seldom
do it), I use grapeseed oil.






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