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Posted by Kris Krieger on November 17, 2007, 5:19 pm
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> Ken S. Tucker wrote:
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>>>Don wrote:
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>>>>So, the chinese are going to buy everything all around the world
>>>>then set their 80 billion people up there to run the businesses and
>>>>then in about 10 years they will have a monopoly on the planet.
>>>>Is this a new version of 5th column?
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>>>Since we pay good money for firms to outsource jobs from the American
>>>economy, yes, and not only yes but we are assisting the process of
>>>internationalizing communism..
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>>Galina is right, it's our fault, but how else to do it.
>>I'm a "union" type fella that believes in collective
>>bargaining, and the enforcement of labor and safety
>>laws, however, as we know, Wal-marts go offshore
>>and employs slave labor for costs at 10 cents on the
>>US dollar.
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> I am NOT in favor of anyone spending tax dollars to CREATE outsourced
> jobs. Does everybody know this was happening?
What, you think every one else is stupid? Of course peole know. The
problem is that people don't know what to do about it, short of just
about not buying anything at all.
THere is a book written by a woman who lived for a year without buying
anthing from China; the book describes the twists and turns, searches,
and many other difficulties she faced in doing such simple things as
trying to get shoes for her kids without resorting to Chinese-made stuff.
I have to try to find the reference.
But the point is that, Of Course many people know. It's the
*doing/fixing* that's the problem. Especially when any savings are not
passed on to consumers and not invested back into the companies, but
rather, going right into the pockets of "top managers" who don't give a
crap about anything whatsoever except having multiple mega-million-dollar
mansions and yachts and gold-plated toilet seats and whatever. The thing
is that, once someone gets to that level, the way it works is that, even
if Joe Wonderbutt runs Company A right into the ground, he's made enough
connections by that time that he will get hired by his buddies to
"manage" company B. I've seen it happen, as in, I have personally
met/known some of these peole, and in the current Capitalist system, the
crap definitely floats to the top.
> I would rather see a
> tax credit for creating jobs at home for marginalized sectors of our
> economy. Those marginalized sectors might help make us competitive
> again and might think outside the box for ways to raise exports and
> limit imports.
Except you can't seel that idea unless there is money in it for the
people who are in the positions to make those decisions.
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> Another idea is to place a democratization tariff on goods coming from
> repressive regimes
Repressive usually meaning "run by a few rish doods", meaning, in turn,
'rich doods who are buddy-buddy with like-minded rich doods who are in
power elsewhere, such as the USA".
> in terms of providing the human and civil rights
> and privileges we expect at home in the US, Canada or EU. I would
> also modify NAFTA. We are rendering ourselves out of significant work
> and providing no incentive for the worst human and civil rights
> abuses.
No kidding.
Again, tho', follow the money. Because that is what it is all about.
People do not want to make a profit - people want to make a friggin'
killing. And it's not restricted to the "upper echelons". Try house-
hunting - people will literally let their house fall to complete insect-
infested, rodent-overrun, mold-soaked shytte, and then turn around and
expect someone to pay mega-bucks for it. And then we wonder why houses
cost so much, yeesh.
People are greedy. Greed is usually not very compatible with concern for
human rights.
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>> I do respect giving the chinks a leg up, to start, but
>>now, I think we'll need to enforce labor laws on them.
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>>Labor has global rights to collectively bargain!!!!
>>If the chinks stop that then freeze the chinks.
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> As a real fan of Chinese culture, even if a hater of Chinese
> communism, I'd rather not see the word "chink" in that context.....
>
I was too disgusted to even know what to say. OF course, why *should* I
know what to say - I'm just a Stupid Polack =>:-p
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