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Re: I told her where to stick it. Junior 01-28-2008
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Posted by Junior on January 28, 2008, 12:40 pm

> Her 11' credenza that is.
> Seems its an issue for her, but like eye to eye clients web clients on the
> upper end require even more handholding.
>
> In real estate its called *buyers Fatigue* but in the residential design
> business this is a new occurrence.
> It comes from propective homebuilders that search the stock plan files
> online and get dizzy in the process.
> There's so much out there and very little in the way of bricks and mortar
> support that people everywhere are seeking a happy medium.
> Like walking across the bridge of the unknown they need a little
> handholding and that is not available online, yet.
>
> This current client is in Provence, France and emailed me 8 different
> online stockplans that have a little something she likes but her 17th
> century hand carved *shrunk*, at least thats what it sounded like what she
> said (the picture she sent looked like a big, tiered credenza) won't fit
> in any of them. I now must make a haven for it and at least eleventy-nine
> other miracles she's requesting. My cellphone is smoking from the 2+ hour
> verbal exchange, international deposit check in US funds forthcoming.
>
> 8 new *global* clients in 2 months time....I could get used to this but I
> gotta admit the language thing might become a major problem.
> She spoke better english than I spoke french which is very, very little.
>

I would hope they don't Google your name. Lots of skeletons there. Good
luck with your new business.



Posted by Michael Bulatovich on January 28, 2008, 1:14 pm

>
>> Her 11' credenza that is.
>> Seems its an issue for her, but like eye to eye clients web clients on
>> the upper end require even more handholding.
>>
>> In real estate its called *buyers Fatigue* but in the residential design
>> business this is a new occurrence.
>> It comes from propective homebuilders that search the stock plan files
>> online and get dizzy in the process.
>> There's so much out there and very little in the way of bricks and mortar
>> support that people everywhere are seeking a happy medium.
>> Like walking across the bridge of the unknown they need a little
>> handholding and that is not available online, yet.
>>
>> This current client is in Provence, France and emailed me 8 different
>> online stockplans that have a little something she likes but her 17th
>> century hand carved *shrunk*, at least thats what it sounded like what
>> she said (the picture she sent looked like a big, tiered credenza) won't
>> fit in any of them. I now must make a haven for it and at least
>> eleventy-nine other miracles she's requesting. My cellphone is smoking
>> from the 2+ hour verbal exchange, international deposit check in US funds
>> forthcoming.
>>
>> 8 new *global* clients in 2 months time....I could get used to this but I
>> gotta admit the language thing might become a major problem.
>> She spoke better english than I spoke french which is very, very little.
>>
>
> I would hope they don't Google your name. Lots of skeletons there. Good
> luck with your new business.

I don't think I've ever worked for someone who's approached me with stock
plans of any kind. It's a red flag for me that says, "Cheap and without any
sophistication." Not my niche, and probably not worth the time spent on a
good proposal. The crap out there is truly astonishing.



Posted by Junior on January 28, 2008, 1:23 pm


>"Cheap and without any sophistication." Not my niche, and probably not
>worth the time spent on a good proposal. The crap out there is truly
>astonishing.

Well the designs may be "Cheap without any sophistication", but that,
coupled with a working spouse has kept Don above water for quite a while, so
who are we to judge.
Besides he already told one client "were to stick it".




Posted by Warm Worm on January 28, 2008, 5:46 pm
Don wrote:
>>
>>> "Cheap and without any sophistication." Not my niche, and probably not
>>> worth the time spent on a good proposal. The crap out there is truly
>>> astonishing.
>> Well the designs may be "Cheap without any sophistication", but that,
>> coupled with a working spouse has kept Don above water for quite a while,
>> so who are we to judge.
>> Besides he already told one client "were to stick it".
>
> There's a saying that goes something like, "There's only 1 dwg file and
> everyone has been editing it ever since."
> Houses have walls, floors, ceilings, and roofs, the rest is just personal
> preferences.
> The house I did for the lady in Birmingham, a strictly web client I never
> met in person, sent me 3 different stockplans as a guide but by the time it
> was done it didn't even remotely resemble any of them.
> I'm ignorant of the contruction costs in Birmingham but in SW FL that house
> would cost on the order of $700k+ and I don't consider that cheap.
> Another webclient, in Sacremento, sent me 6 stockplans and that house will
> be 4000 sf with a semi detached mothers house and a semi detached 4 car
> garage, again, I'm estimating in the $700k range in FL dollars.
> The trend seems to be that people that seek me out on the web aren't cheap.

I wonder if there's software out there that could input all the
preferred stock floor-plans received from the client and automatically
generate them into a completely new one that, like an offspring, would
be a completely new plan, yet bear a lineage and resemblance to its parents.

With parametric modeling or some-such, it's probably on its way.

Posted by Kris Krieger on January 29, 2008, 1:36 pm

> Don wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Cheap and without any sophistication." Not my niche, and probably
>>>> not worth the time spent on a good proposal. The crap out there is
>>>> truly astonishing.
>>> Well the designs may be "Cheap without any sophistication", but
>>> that, coupled with a working spouse has kept Don above water for
>>> quite a while, so who are we to judge.
>>> Besides he already told one client "were to stick it".
>>
>> There's a saying that goes something like, "There's only 1 dwg file
>> and everyone has been editing it ever since."
>> Houses have walls, floors, ceilings, and roofs, the rest is just
>> personal preferences.
>> The house I did for the lady in Birmingham, a strictly web client I
>> never met in person, sent me 3 different stockplans as a guide but by
>> the time it was done it didn't even remotely resemble any of them.
>> I'm ignorant of the contruction costs in Birmingham but in SW FL that
>> house would cost on the order of $700k+ and I don't consider that
>> cheap. Another webclient, in Sacremento, sent me 6 stockplans and
>> that house will be 4000 sf with a semi detached mothers house and a
>> semi detached 4 car garage, again, I'm estimating in the $700k range
>> in FL dollars. The trend seems to be that people that seek me out on
>> the web aren't cheap.
>
> I wonder if there's software out there that could input all the
> preferred stock floor-plans received from the client and automatically
> generate them into a completely new one that, like an offspring, would
> be a completely new plan, yet bear a lineage and resemblance to its
> parents.
>
> With parametric modeling or some-such, it's probably on its way.
>

THat sounds like a complete nightmare...


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