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Re: I told her where to stick it. Junior 01-28-2008
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Posted by Warm Worm on January 30, 2008, 5:30 am
Kris Krieger wrote:
>
>> Don wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Cheap and without any sophistication." Not my niche, and probably
>>>>> not worth the time spent on a good proposal. The crap out there is
>>>>> truly astonishing.
>>>> Well the designs may be "Cheap without any sophistication", but
>>>> that, coupled with a working spouse has kept Don above water for
>>>> quite a while, so who are we to judge.
>>>> Besides he already told one client "were to stick it".
>>> There's a saying that goes something like, "There's only 1 dwg file
>>> and everyone has been editing it ever since."
>>> Houses have walls, floors, ceilings, and roofs, the rest is just
>>> personal preferences.
>>> The house I did for the lady in Birmingham, a strictly web client I
>>> never met in person, sent me 3 different stockplans as a guide but by
>>> the time it was done it didn't even remotely resemble any of them.
>>> I'm ignorant of the contruction costs in Birmingham but in SW FL that
>>> house would cost on the order of $700k+ and I don't consider that
>>> cheap. Another webclient, in Sacremento, sent me 6 stockplans and
>>> that house will be 4000 sf with a semi detached mothers house and a
>>> semi detached 4 car garage, again, I'm estimating in the $700k range
>>> in FL dollars. The trend seems to be that people that seek me out on
>>> the web aren't cheap.
>> I wonder if there's software out there that could input all the
>> preferred stock floor-plans received from the client and automatically
>> generate them into a completely new one that, like an offspring, would
>> be a completely new plan, yet bear a lineage and resemblance to its
>> parents.
>>
>> With parametric modeling or some-such, it's probably on its way.
>>
>
> THat sounds like a complete nightmare...

LOL, ya, after re-reading it with your POV in mind, I can see why you
might think so... Ok, then how about "industrial-strength" parametric
modeling in general then? Something out of Star-Trek perhaps...

Client: "Ok, make me a house... Let's start with a basic floor-plan."
Computer/Arch-Software: "How wide and long?"
Client: "Oh, let's say about '" wide and '" long."
Computer/Arch-Software: (lays out a kind of template floorplan) "Done...
Now tell me about the modifications."
Client: "Ok, that's a start... Let's put the bathroom over here and make
it bigger, and then add a double doorway..."
Computer/Arch-Software: "Done. How does that look?"
Client: "Getting better... Now, I want an extra room here, and another
window here."
Computer/Arch-Software: "Done."
Client: "Make the window a little bigger."
Computer/Arch-Software: "How's that?"
Client: "Bigger."
Computer/Arch-Software: "Okay?"
Client: "A little bigger."
Computer/Arch-Software: "Okay?"
Client: "Too big. Make it smaller."
Computer/Arch-Software: "How's this?"
Client: "Too small... Haha-- just kidding! It was fine way before! Haha!"
Computer/Arch-Software: "It's a good think I work for free."

Posted by Kris Krieger on January 30, 2008, 11:44 pm

> Kris Krieger wrote:
>>
>>> Don wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Cheap and without any sophistication." Not my niche, and
>>>>>> probably not worth the time spent on a good proposal. The crap
>>>>>> out there is truly astonishing.
>>>>> Well the designs may be "Cheap without any sophistication", but
>>>>> that, coupled with a working spouse has kept Don above water for
>>>>> quite a while, so who are we to judge.
>>>>> Besides he already told one client "were to stick it".
>>>> There's a saying that goes something like, "There's only 1 dwg file
>>>> and everyone has been editing it ever since."
>>>> Houses have walls, floors, ceilings, and roofs, the rest is just
>>>> personal preferences.
>>>> The house I did for the lady in Birmingham, a strictly web client I
>>>> never met in person, sent me 3 different stockplans as a guide but
>>>> by the time it was done it didn't even remotely resemble any of
>>>> them. I'm ignorant of the contruction costs in Birmingham but in SW
>>>> FL that house would cost on the order of $700k+ and I don't
>>>> consider that cheap. Another webclient, in Sacremento, sent me 6
>>>> stockplans and that house will be 4000 sf with a semi detached
>>>> mothers house and a semi detached 4 car garage, again, I'm
>>>> estimating in the $700k range in FL dollars. The trend seems to be
>>>> that people that seek me out on the web aren't cheap.
>>> I wonder if there's software out there that could input all the
>>> preferred stock floor-plans received from the client and
>>> automatically generate them into a completely new one that, like an
>>> offspring, would be a completely new plan, yet bear a lineage and
>>> resemblance to its parents.
>>>
>>> With parametric modeling or some-such, it's probably on its way.
>>>
>>
>> THat sounds like a complete nightmare...
>
> LOL, ya, after re-reading it with your POV in mind, I can see why you
> might think so... Ok, then how about "industrial-strength" parametric
> modeling in general then? Something out of Star-Trek perhaps...

The thing isi, what you desctibe below is already done by designers.

ASFIK, the human brain is still (at least in some cases ;) ) the
greatest computer of all. I don't understand the rush to try to replace
it with computers - that still have to be designed, created, and
programmed by humans...

The computer is a great tool for some things, but that's it - a tool. A
hammer is also a great tool for some things. A hammer and a computer
are usually not interchangeable, tho'.


>
> Client: "Ok, make me a house... Let's start with a basic floor-plan."
> Computer/Arch-Software: "How wide and long?"
> Client: "Oh, let's say about '" wide and '" long."
> Computer/Arch-Software: (lays out a kind of template floorplan)
> "Done... Now tell me about the modifications."
> Client: "Ok, that's a start... Let's put the bathroom over here and
> make it bigger, and then add a double doorway..."
> Computer/Arch-Software: "Done. How does that look?"
> Client: "Getting better... Now, I want an extra room here, and another
> window here."
> Computer/Arch-Software: "Done."
> Client: "Make the window a little bigger."
> Computer/Arch-Software: "How's that?"
> Client: "Bigger."
> Computer/Arch-Software: "Okay?"
> Client: "A little bigger."
> Computer/Arch-Software: "Okay?"
> Client: "Too big. Make it smaller."
> Computer/Arch-Software: "How's this?"
> Client: "Too small... Haha-- just kidding! It was fine way before!
> Haha!" Computer/Arch-Software: "It's a good think I work for free."
>


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