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Re: Is there a concrete block wall inside this stone wall? Chuck 05-07-2006
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Posted by Kris Krieger on May 16, 2006, 5:13 pm

>
>>
>>>
>>> in message
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks. How are cement stone veneer made?
>>>>>
>>>>> If so can I chip them out and expose the concrete wall inside? I
>>>>> don't mind the stone look on the outside but I don't like it on
>>>>> the inside.
>>>>>
>>>>> MC
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea about that, but you could prob. cover it over with
>>>> cement and then smooth, stucco, or finish it as you choose.
>>>
>>> Lordy, can you imagine the mudrings on those electrical outlets?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Er, you have crossed over into the vasat region known as "Kris' area
>> of ignorance". Dunno what you mean.
>>
>> But, if the wall is already rock'n'concrete, would there be outlets
>> in it....? I don't recall the he mentioned any.
>>
>> The idea of a "false wall" is prob the best, since it *would* allow
>> for wiring and so on. I just figured that plastering it over was
>> might be a 'quick'n'dirty" solution.
>
> Don't know if applicable codes were in effect when that house was
> built but common sense dictates if the wall was oh say, 10' long or so
> it should have at least 1 electrical outlet.

One would think - but there are many stange and silly things that get
done...

I also like the "false wall" idea, tho', becuase in addition ot putting in
outlets if need be, you could insulate behind it. In warm climates, I
don't think stone/concrete is bad, but in cold climates, they can bring a
lot of cold into the living area. Same with exposed brick.

((Log houses are not the same because wood itself has insulating
properties, but I've forgotten the exact figures - I seem to recall
something to the effect of a sheet of exterior plywood having a rating of 2
or thereabouts, but I can't remember.))


> Mudrings are plastic extensions for electrical outlets to bring them
> flush with the surface of a wall after it has been floated or
> redrywalled, etc. Otherwise the outlet would be recessed too far into
> the wall to allow the cover plate to work properly.

Oh, I get it, because drywall compound is called "mud" - thanks :)

Posted by miamicuse on May 31, 2006, 11:03 pm

>
> >
> >>
> >>>
> >>> in message
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thanks. How are cement stone veneer made?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If so can I chip them out and expose the concrete wall inside? I
> >>>>> don't mind the stone look on the outside but I don't like it on
> >>>>> the inside.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> MC
> >>>>
> >>>> I have no idea about that, but you could prob. cover it over with
> >>>> cement and then smooth, stucco, or finish it as you choose.
> >>>
> >>> Lordy, can you imagine the mudrings on those electrical outlets?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Er, you have crossed over into the vasat region known as "Kris' area
> >> of ignorance". Dunno what you mean.
> >>
> >> But, if the wall is already rock'n'concrete, would there be outlets
> >> in it....? I don't recall the he mentioned any.
> >>
> >> The idea of a "false wall" is prob the best, since it *would* allow
> >> for wiring and so on. I just figured that plastering it over was
> >> might be a 'quick'n'dirty" solution.
> >
> > Don't know if applicable codes were in effect when that house was
> > built but common sense dictates if the wall was oh say, 10' long or so
> > it should have at least 1 electrical outlet.
>
> One would think - but there are many stange and silly things that get
> done...
>
> I also like the "false wall" idea, tho', becuase in addition ot putting in
> outlets if need be, you could insulate behind it. In warm climates, I
> don't think stone/concrete is bad, but in cold climates, they can bring a
> lot of cold into the living area. Same with exposed brick.
>
> ((Log houses are not the same because wood itself has insulating
> properties, but I've forgotten the exact figures - I seem to recall
> something to the effect of a sheet of exterior plywood having a rating of
2
> or thereabouts, but I can't remember.))
>
>
> > Mudrings are plastic extensions for electrical outlets to bring them
> > flush with the surface of a wall after it has been floated or
> > redrywalled, etc. Otherwise the outlet would be recessed too far into
> > the wall to allow the cover plate to work properly.
>
> Oh, I get it, because drywall compound is called "mud" - thanks :)

There are outlets on the wall. By the way I spoke to the original architect
who designed this house for himself in the early 70s, he said he thinks it
is a concrete block wall inside.

MC



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