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Re: Is there a concrete block wall inside this stone wall? Pierre Levesque, AIA 05-08-2006
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Posted by Pierre Levesque, AIA on May 8, 2006, 5:10 pm
> This property has a stone wall on the exterior:
>
> http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-10/1090906/stonewalloutside.JPG
>
> and also on the interior:
>
> http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-10/1090906/stonewallinside.JPG
>
> is it possible the entire wall is made of stone, or could there be a
> concrete wall in the middle and the stones are just decorative? How would
> I
> find out?
>
> No plans of any kind available.
>
> Thanks,
>
> MC
>

If the stones are laid sideways it's a stone veneer. Stone used in walls
relies on the stones acting in compression. Most stone is 2 directional
meaning that it can only handle compression in one axis. Some common stone
is 4 directional like ignious rock (granite, marble etc) and some
sedimentary stone (sandstone) meaning that it can handle compresion in two
axis or directions .

These look like field stone of some sort which is 2 directional. For
fieldstone (like shale or slate) to be used in stone walls, they'd need to
be laid flat on top of each other so as to be in compression. If 2
direction stone were used in the wrong direction, it would crumble and
delaminate from itself in no time. When you see stones like these used in
the vertical direction you must can usually safely assume that it's stone
veneer.



Posted by RicodJour on May 8, 2006, 6:48 pm

Pierre Levesque, AIA wrote:
>
> If the stones are laid sideways it's a stone veneer. Stone used in walls
> relies on the stones acting in compression. Most stone is 2 directional
> meaning that it can only handle compression in one axis. Some common stone
> is 4 directional like ignious rock (granite, marble etc) and some
> sedimentary stone (sandstone) meaning that it can handle compresion in two
> axis or directions .
>
> These look like field stone of some sort which is 2 directional. For
> fieldstone (like shale or slate) to be used in stone walls, they'd need to
> be laid flat on top of each other so as to be in compression. If 2
> direction stone were used in the wrong direction, it would crumble and
> delaminate from itself in no time. When you see stones like these used in
> the vertical direction you must can usually safely assume that it's stone
> veneer.

"..you must can usually safely assume..." Hoo boy, I think I need a
few to catch up with you and decipher that! ;)

Veneer can be added to a wall, or the veneer can be the outer skin of a
poured wall. Can't tell without poking a hole or three.

R


Posted by Pierre Levesque, AIA on May 8, 2006, 6:53 pm
>
> Pierre Levesque, AIA wrote:
>>
>> If the stones are laid sideways it's a stone veneer. Stone used in walls
>> relies on the stones acting in compression. Most stone is 2 directional
>> meaning that it can only handle compression in one axis. Some common
>> stone
>> is 4 directional like ignious rock (granite, marble etc) and some
>> sedimentary stone (sandstone) meaning that it can handle compresion in
>> two
>> axis or directions .
>>
>> These look like field stone of some sort which is 2 directional. For
>> fieldstone (like shale or slate) to be used in stone walls, they'd need
>> to
>> be laid flat on top of each other so as to be in compression. If 2
>> direction stone were used in the wrong direction, it would crumble and
>> delaminate from itself in no time. When you see stones like these used
>> in
>> the vertical direction you must can usually safely assume that it's stone
>> veneer.
>
> "..you must can usually safely assume..." Hoo boy, I think I need a
> few to catch up with you and decipher that! ;)
>
> Veneer can be added to a wall, or the veneer can be the outer skin of a
> poured wall. Can't tell without poking a hole or three.
>
> R
>

That's wachu git for skippin' all those Geology 101 classes! LOL!



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