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Posted by EDS on February 20, 2008, 12:10 pm
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>>>
>>>>
>>>> m. ..
>>>>>> How are you supposed to match things up if you don't want to buy
>>>>>> everything
>>>>>> from the same manufacturer-series-model?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am simply confused by the variety of finishes avaialble on
>>>>>> something like
>>>>>> plumbing fixtures you have...chrome, matt chrome, brush nickel and
>>>>>> these are
>>>>>> pretty standard and been around and now they also have velour
>>>>>> chrome, satin
>>>>>> chrome, satin nickel, brush nickel, Satinox, platinum, matt
>>>>>> platinum, silver, polished silver, high grade matt steel, polished
>>>>>> steel...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this a conspiracy, so you will always buy the entire group from
>>>>>> them, once you buy a matt platinum shower mixer trim, you are
>>>>>> stucked, you can't
>>>>>> buy a matt platimum shower head or a matt platinum diverter form
>>>>>> another manufacturer, they don't have it or if they do, they don't
>>>>>> match. Nothing
>>>>>> wrong with not matching, but if they are "close enough to be
>>>>>> slightly different" is the worst!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and merger and acquisition is not "merging". So Kohler takes over
>>>>>> Porcher
>>>>>> and Robern, but their finishes don't even match, did you notice
>>>>>> that it is
>>>>>> possible to have the same manufacturer with two different products
>>>>>> in a bathroom, both finish = satin nickel and they look slightly
>>>>>> different because they were different companies but now under one
>>>>>> name?
>>>>>
>>>>> What is your suggestion? The Henry Ford model? "You can have any
>>>>> color car you want - as long as it's black." There are certain
>>>>> companies that work off of the Kohler color schemes and match their
>>>>> products to it. That's fine when you have an 800 pound gorilla of
>>>>> bathroom fixtures, but what do you do in a kitchen or any other
>>>>> room? Nobody else has a dominant market share. "Standard"
>>>>> finishes, such as US10 and the like, are not uniform across
>>>>> manufacturers and product lines - never have been. Most of the
>>>>> time it isn't really an issue. If you have more stringent
>>>>> requirements about exact finish matches, then you're working
>>>>> backwards. You're choosing a finish from a manufacturer and
>>>>> letting that drive the rest of your purchases, hoping that their
>>>>> products have the features you want (they don't) and that the
>>>>> overall price won't be greater (it will).
>>>>
>>>> There were 3 primary things I was wanting in bathroom sink faucets
>>>> and this is what they were in order of importance.
>>>> 1) single handle, I hate the double handle units which seem to be
>>>> the norm these days, unless you're willing to put up with the cheap
>>>> ass Delta-Moen builder grade stuff with the cheezy clear plastic
>>>> handle.
>>>
>>> Ours have metal handles, but I still don't like them - the base
>>> "overhangs" the sink, which itself looks cheesy (Id thought those
>>> things *did* come in standard szes...). And even with theat, the
>>> spacing between everythign si so tight that it makes it really
>>> difficult to get soap etc. buildup out from in-between the spout and
>>> the faucet handles.
>>>
>>>> 2) gooseneck, I'd like to have a little more *lift* in the waterflow
>>>> which facilitates hand washing, teeth brushing, etc.
>>>
>>> GOt taht, and havethe same complain - I'd gotten it because I'd
>>> thought (silly me) that teh actual spout would be higher - it's
>>> actually not very high at all - why the heck have this big long
>>> arched neck, and still have the water outflow so dang low...?
>>>
>>>> Its easier to
>>>> swish the toothpaste out of the cave if the faucet is higher. Alas,
>>>> there doesn't seem to be such an animal, gooseneck with single
>>>> handle.
>>>
>>> I've seen that on kitchen faucets.
>>>
>>> Whcih made me wonder, WHy couldn't a kitchen faucet like that be put
>>> into a bathroom, esp. since the "bath" faucet setup doesn't fit the
>>> sink anyway...
>>
>> The hole spacing in the sink is different, kitchen faucet holes are
>> spaced farther apart.
>> But its a neat idea.
>> Maybe a smaller single bowl kitchen sink with kitchen faucet as a
>> bathroom sink.
>
> But wouldn't an all-in-one faucet'n'handle combo fit anywhere?
>
> At eh same time, IMO, since nobody seems anymore to install *utility*
> sinks, a great big bathroom sink would be great IMO. One fo those big
> "farm style" sinks. I mean, who made it a law that bathroom sinks have
> to be so puny that they're pretty much useless? I don't ant to do plant
> reporrint, or post-hobby-work cleanup, in the *kitchen* sink, so IMO, a
> big ol' bathroom sink could be useful. Also better for hand-washing the
> occasional item.
>
> I hadn't thought of that before, but why not? A kitchen sink doesnt'
> even have ot be stainless steel - you can get Silestone or porcelain or
> heck, smoothed sealed concrete...
>
> And really, it'd also be great for folks who have babies. THe more I
> think about it, the sillier those teeny little bath sinks seem to be.
>
>>>> We have a gooseneck on our laundry room sink but its double handle.
>>>> The Kohler Fairfax model we chose has a little more *lift* to it
>>>> than the others. 3) Traditional look, whatever that means. I'm not
>>>> into the swoopy curves or squared off truncated look thats become
>>>> popular. 4) The finish was the least important, though it was going
>>>> to be in the *silver* range of color. I prefer the clean look of
>>>> polished chrome but I also like some of the nickel stuff thats out
>>>> there. And it price and function were proper I'd even consider some
>>>> of the more *out there* stuff, like copper or that nasty dark stuff
>>>> that looks like farmhouse fixtures that are 300 years old. Chrome
>>>> seems to provide the best options for the accessories.
>>>
>>> Chrome alwasy matches chrome. THat's an advantage. Also, it's hard
>>> (if even possible...?) to find things like shower frames that are in
>>> anything other than either chrome, or that over-shiny "gold" color.
>>>
>>>> Yes, I even want the
>>>> shower doors to match. I'm funny that way. Details, man, details.
>>>
>>> It's reasonable, IMO. IN this place, I paid extra for the "brushed
>>> nickel" fixxtrues - not realizing that the shower frame and towel
>>> rack/rings and toilet handles etc. would all still be chrome =>:-[
>>>
>>> Not being apurist, I tried out a coupel of items fro THe Hated Den
>>> Of Satan (i.e., WalMart), and they'er far enough from the sink so
>>> taht it works out OK - but overall, I should've gotten teh chrome,
>>> and replaced them if I decided to. The mixture of brushed-nickel
>>> things jumbeld in with chrome things looks disjointed, incongrous,
>>> *cheap*. All-chrome would actually ahve looked better.
>>>
>>> It's a small thing, but given what houses cost, hey...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Pulls the whole package together. 5) Price. We ain't cheap but we
>>>> ain't Rockefellers either. The Kohlers we bought were $88 at Lowes
>>>> and thats about all I'm willing to pay for. The shower package was
>>>> $148 I think but we got ripped cause we had to pay for a tub spout
>>>> which we won't be using. They had no package in that line up for
>>>> just a shower, without the spout. I'll fashion a garden ornament out
>>>> of it, or a wind chime. =D
>>>>
>>>
>>> Get yourself some concrete, and fashion a fountain and/or birdbath
>>> ;)
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Kohler used to have a 27" long bath sink for mounting in a counter, with a
sloped end. We installed the counter at 36" and bathed our kids in it
without breaking our backs. AFAIK they no longer sell it and we left it in
the house when we sold.
EDS
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