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Re: Museums/Stand Exibition design and Ductal standalone32 04-27-2006
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Posted by 3D Peruna on April 28, 2006, 9:20 am
standalone32 wrote:
>> standalone32 wrote:
>>
>>> I don't want anyone to do my homework.
>>> Internet and newsgroup were born to share knowledge.
>>> If such person like 3DPeruna doesn't know that, patience.
>> No need to assume, or lecture, what I know or don't know. Yes, I may
>> seem somewhat curmudgeonly, but please go back and re-read your original
>> post and see if you can't understand why the response was what it was.
>>
>> I can give examples of several questions that would have elicited a
>> different response. Such as "I've found this new product (give link).
>> It's new. Does anyone have any experience with it? Would you use it?
>> If so, how?"
>>
>> Your item about "I'm also interested in collecting materials, books,
>> catalogues, monographs about museums and stand exibition designed by
>> famous architects." Is simply a statement. Something else is needed to
>> make it useful (or even interesting). Such as "I'm interested in XYZ.
>> I've been to EBay, Amazon, Prairie Avenue, etc. Does anybody have other
>> places or sites that might be useful? I have ABC in my collection, are
>> there recommendations for other things that I might enjoy?"
>>
>> You see the difference? Try it...you, and we, might like it.
>
> You continue in posting unuseful and polemic answers.
> You are very obstinate and repeat the same things.
> You are arrogant because you think to teach others how to write, how to
> post, how to make question.
> You are not clever at all if you don't understand the needs and the spirit
> of a student
>
> Please, stop posting anything unless about Ductal ( have you understood what
> Ductal is? )

No. I'll try and be more patronizing. You, my dear (how's that?), are
the one who's missing the point. Your original post did not ask the
questions to which you were wanting answers. As to my answers being
"unuseful", I'm not sure how your post could have elicited useful
answers. I've attempted to help you along (and in the absence of gruhn,
I think I've done a pretty good job).

I have not attempted to "teach anyone how to write." There was no
grammar lesson included in my post. Simply some suggestions about how
to get more out of your post.

No...I'm not clever. And having "never" been a student, I don't
understand their needs at all...

Why do you insist on assuming motives? You have yet to admit that your
original post has garnered very little useful. Marcello finally posted
something, out of the goodness of his heart. I don't know if it will be
"useful" to you or not--you still haven't posted a question that would
be answerable.


Posted by on April 27, 2006, 6:39 pm

standalone32 wrote:
> Just to say that I have already searched on the Web (google, books about
> Ductal on amazon, ...), I have already searched in school's librarian (OPAC
> by other colleges of engineering and architecture) with no success. The
> topic is so new that it's very difficult to find materials and documents.

That's because you're using the wrong search terms. Try "fiber
reinforced concrete Ductal" (220,000 hits, as opposed to just Ductal
concrete (42,000))

Ductal is basically fiber-reinforced concrete, a very old technology.

http://www.compositesworld.com/ct/issues/2005/April/808/3

http://www.compositesworld.com/ct/issues/2004/February/356

And for the ol' translucent concrete (and some words about Ductal)

http://www.architechmag.com/Articles/detailArchitech.asp?ArticleID=2374

I've never specified Ductal, but it seems like a great product to make
spiral concrete stairs supported only at the top and bottom treads.

Marcello


Posted by Frankendrip on April 28, 2006, 4:56 am

"Don"
> "standalone32"
>> Internet and newsgroup were born to share knowledge.

> Keep your eye out for brudgers though, he can be cantankerous......
>

And if anyone should know, it's Don. ;)

Posted by 3D Peruna on April 28, 2006, 9:31 am
standalone32 wrote:

>
> Just to say that I have already searched on the Web (google, books about
> Ductal on amazon, ...), I have already searched in school's librarian (OPAC
> by other colleges of engineering and architecture) with no success. The
> topic is so new that it's very difficult to find materials and documents.
> The only materials I have found was on LaFarge web site. Clearly, I have
> already contacted the company to obtain (with no success) more technical
> materials in addition
> to the few brochures available on their web site.

Well...then, that's a start.

>
> I can assure you that I know to use google, internet, search engines and so
> on. I will say more: if you try to search using only Ductal as keyword, you
> will obtain all except resources about Ductal... you have to use
> concrete+Ductal or Ductal+LaFarge.... if you know how to use google ;-)

I can Google with the best of 'em. As Marcello posted, your product
isn't as "new" as you thought it might have been. I've had the
opportunity to consider "fiber-reinforced concrete," but due to budget
considerations, those ideas were abandoned.

>
> My idea was to post on a newsgroup, for direct contact and information
> exchange with people who could have employed Ductal for design in their
> everyday professional life.

Do you mean Ductal the product or fiber-reinforced concrete? Again, two
different questions.

>
> What is your contribution to this discussion? Nothing....

I beg to differ. First, I've been entertained. That's a positive
contribution. I suspect a few other regulars have been, too. Second,
you might consider how you post to newsgroups next time.

> Do you have so time to waste? Are you so rude and unpolite to post this
> inane answers?

It's my time (it's my firm) to do with as I please. As for being rude,
I have not called you names, insulted you or done any of the things
typically considered rude. I have been somewhat condescending. You may
see that as rude. I see it as appropriate for the circumstances.

> Please, stop posting unless that (but I know that it's not possible....) I
> have to post something useful.

I'm quite sure you don't have the authority to ask me to stop posting,
and quite obviously, I haven't. And, yes, it would be nice if you would
post something useful.

> It's clearly that you have never heard about Ductal....

That sentence certainly warrants a grammar lesson, but I'll skip it. I
will point out that you have fallen in to old habits regarding assuming
with strangers might nor might not know. It's not a very good sign...


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