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Re: OT: Thinking about design RicodJour 08-18-2008
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Posted by Kris Krieger on August 21, 2008, 4:15 pm


cc2ea05a1cbf@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

>> RicodJour wrote:
>>
>>  > Did you ever look at sailboat's for design inspiration for
>> > your house?  They're really clever about packing in storage and
>> > keeping things stowed away.  
>>
>> Boat-design as inspiration for small house design crossed my mind as
>> well. I wonder if architecture schools teach something of it.
>
> Hell, most of them don't even reference working buildings for design.
>
> I think Ken should have looked at some teardrop trailers for his house
> design.
> Poke around this page and you'll see what I mean:
> http://teardrop.blogicalthoughts.com/td_2nditg.html
>
> A teardrop design has all sorts of benefits in Ken's situation. It is
> DIY friendly, it has a cool sloping roof that sheds snow and water.
> It's basically made for cooking/eating and lying down - Ken's favorite
> activities. It has a large opening rear hatch - perfect for after the
> Spring thaw when the Grizzly bears have left the area. It rolls so he
> can move it around. He could build several of them for when guests
> and family visit and when he is in the dog house. He could circle the
> wagons when the restless natives are particularly restless. It's
> freaking aluminum and wood and how cool is that?!
>
> R
>

Does anyone make those anymore?

Can a small car pull one?

I'd thought soemthing like that would be a great way to camp, a.k.a. avoid
hotel problems and sleep where you know how clean the sheets are - I'm not
at all up for sleeping ont he ground in a flimsy tent, but after seing some
of these teardrop trailers on an RV show, I thought it'd be a great way to
sleep up off the ground in a fairly sturdy structure, *but* without having
to spend a fortune on some super-techno monster that you need a 3-ton truck
to haul around.

The only drawback is they're too small to have a little shower/potty
inside. Or are they...? I don't know anything about them, really. I like
the idea of being able to bring your bed and a small kitchen along with
you, so you don't have to stay in hotels and eat out all the time, btu I'd
also liek a small shower/toilet.

What I saw that I really liked was the compact units tat are now made for
long-haul truckers. I wouldn't want to lve in one permanently (I have too
many hobbies to fit into the unit), but IMO, it'd make a great little
camper.


- Kris

Posted by RicodJour on August 21, 2008, 5:01 pm


4-
> cc2ea05a1...@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> >> RicodJour wrote:
>
> >> =A0> Did you ever look at sailboat's for design inspiration for
> >> > your house? =A0They're really clever about packing in storage and
> >> > keeping things stowed away. =A0
>
> >> Boat-design as inspiration for small house design crossed my mind as
> >> well. I wonder if architecture schools teach something of it.
>
> > Hell, most of them don't even reference working buildings for design.
>
> > I think Ken should have looked at some teardrop trailers for his house
> > design.
> > Poke around this page and you'll see what I mean:
> >http://teardrop.blogicalthoughts.com/td_2nditg.html
>
> > A teardrop design has all sorts of benefits in Ken's situation. =A0It i=
s
> > DIY friendly, it has a cool sloping roof that sheds snow and water.
> > It's basically made for cooking/eating and lying down - Ken's favorite
> > activities. =A0It has a large opening rear hatch - perfect for after th=
e
> > Spring thaw when the Grizzly bears have left the area. =A0It rolls so h=
e
> > can move it around. =A0He could build several of them for when guests
> > and family visit and when he is in the dog house. =A0He could circle th=
e
> > wagons when the restless natives are particularly restless. =A0It's
> > freaking aluminum and wood and how cool is that?!
>
> > R
>
> Does anyone make those anymore? =A0
>
> Can a small car pull one?
>
> I'd thought soemthing like that would be a great way to camp, a.k.a. avoi=
d
> hotel problems and sleep where you know how clean the sheets are - I'm no=
t
> at all up for sleeping ont he ground in a flimsy tent, but after seing so=
me
> of these teardrop trailers on an RV show, I thought it'd be a great way t=
o
> sleep up off the ground in a fairly sturdy structure, *but* without havin=
g
> to spend a fortune on some super-techno monster that you need a 3-ton tru=
ck
> to haul around.
>
> The only drawback is they're too small to have a little shower/potty
> inside. =A0Or are they...? =A0I don't know anything about them, really. =
=A0I like
> the idea of being able to bring your bed and a small kitchen along with
> you, so you don't have to stay in hotels and eat out all the time, btu I'=
d
> also liek a small shower/toilet.
>
> What I saw that I really liked was the compact units tat are now made for
> long-haul truckers. =A0I wouldn't want to lve in one permanently (I have =
too
> many hobbies to fit into the unit), but IMO, it'd make a great little
> camper.

People have pulled the things with their Harleys. Pretty much any car
can pull a teardrop.

Some of them have a porta potty and it wouldn't be too much work to
rig up a shower curtain hanging from the rear hatch.

Here's one guy that hooked up a car engine heated shower:
http://www.nicksteardrop.com/spamboree5.htm

Store-bought version that takes a car with a little more oomph:
http://www.roamingtimes.com/rvreports/tab-teardrop-trailer.aspx

And here's where you can ask specific questions and say "wow" alot:
http://www.mikenchell.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3D5978&start=3D0&sid=3D15e=
a6f759d5a8af8d20730e7485c5e28

R

Posted by Kris Krieger on August 21, 2008, 7:34 pm



[snip]
>
> People have pulled the things with their Harleys. Pretty much any car
> can pull a teardrop.
>
> Some of them have a porta potty and it wouldn't be too much work to
> rig up a shower curtain hanging from the rear hatch.
>
> Here's one guy that hooked up a car engine heated shower:
> http://www.nicksteardrop.com/spamboree5.htm
>
> Store-bought version that takes a car with a little more oomph:
> http://www.roamingtimes.com/rvreports/tab-teardrop-trailer.aspx
>
> And here's where you can ask specific questions and say "wow" alot:
> http://www.mikenchell.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5978&start=0&sid=15ea6f7
> 59d5a8af8d20730e7485c5e28
>
> R
>

Hey, thanks for the links!

I just started thinking about this recently as a possible way of taking
vacations after retirement - my idea of vcation being "let's explore teh
Grand Canyon" as opposed to "let's go spend wads of $$ gambling and
watching shows and going to overpriced bars".

Hmmm, who was it who'd posted pics here, I guess about a year ago, that
he'd taken in Nevada, takin a day trip while the rest fo the family went to
Las Vegas? That's the sort of thing I mean. A mini-trailer would be great
for that.

The last link suggested a sit-down shower/bath, which would work fine for
me. Main thing is just to be able to pour some hot water over myself,
slather on the Cetaphil, and another pour to rinse off - nothing too fancy.
The car-engine-heated water was clever ;)


I followed some of the links and it's interesting to see all teh plans for
building one's own. I'll have to look to see whetehr tehre are
instructions for fiberglass ones - that should make for a more lightweight
item, yet still sturdy enough.


Anyway, interesting links, and inspirations for small-scale living :)

- Kris







Posted by RicodJour on August 21, 2008, 5:16 pm


>
> The only drawback is they're too small to have a little shower/potty
> inside. =A0Or are they...? =A0I don't know anything about them, really. =
=A0I like
> the idea of being able to bring your bed and a small kitchen along with
> you, so you don't have to stay in hotels and eat out all the time, btu I'=
d
> also liek a small shower/toilet.

Another possibility:
http://www.puxtradingpost.com/product_info.php?cPath=3D43_74&products_id=3D=
230

R


Posted by Kris Krieger on August 21, 2008, 7:36 pm


d1ac83a4847e@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

>>
>> The only drawback is they're too small to have a little shower/potty
>> inside.  Or are they...?  I don't know anything about them, really.
>  I like
>> the idea of being able to bring your bed and a small kitchen along with
>> you, so you don't have to stay in hotels and eat out all the time, btu I'
> d
>> also liek a small shower/toilet.
>
> Another possibility:
> http://www.puxtradingpost.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_74&products_id=230
>
> R
>
>

Also an intresting site :)

THanks!

- Kris


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