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Posted by Kris Krieger on October 16, 2007, 8:03 pm
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>>>>> Well, what started out as a dental appt this morning turned into
>>>>> something much more tragic.
>>>>> Looks like I have to work toward a sugarless and saltless
>>>>> lifestyle. Man, can you say bland.
>>>>> BP is 162/94.
>>>>> Its a combination of many small things that got it to where it is,
>>>>> some can be corrected and some can't.
>>>>> I know what I gotta do, now I gotta get at it.
>>>>> Onward......
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you not tolerate Lisinopril or other BP med? I'd had higher BP
>>>> than that (190's over 90's) and was living on a a low-sodium, very
>>>> low sugar diet at the time. Sodium isn't the total cause of high
>>>> BP.
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>>> Drugs will be the absolute last avenue, to be avoided as much as
>>> possible. There's lots of little things that can be done on my own
>>> and thats where I'm headed.
>>>
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>> It's of course always best to tryto follow sensible living guidelines
>> (sez El Lardo... :( ), but sometimes individuals need more - everyone
>> is differnet, of course, but some folks do benefit greatly from
>> pharmaceuticals.
>>
>> Anyhoo, eat a lot of celery - I've forgottent eh name of the
>> substance, but there is a component in celery (not just potassium)
>> that actively lowers blood pressure. THe thing with salt is usually
>> the side-effect, IOW bloating/fluid build-up. You might want to also
>> look into things such as herbal and regular teas which might have a
>> diuretic effect.
>>
>> I'm not opposed to herbal remedies, as long as one researches them
>> **very** well. A number of herbs and spices do have very real
>> pharmocological effects - the problem is that herbs are also very
>> complex things, and many also contain substances that are harmful.
>> ((Remember, arsenic is also a "natural" chemical, and I think it's
>> strychnine that's found in things such as the Pokeberry - birds can
>> eat the berries ebcause their digestive systems can process-out the
>> poison, but humans can't; and alfalfa contains the most potent
>> phytocarcinogen that's currently known. So "natural" remedies need to
>> be researched thoroughly.))
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> Thanks Kris,
> We consume a fair amount of celery around here, and the stuff is
> pretty inexpensive too.
I forgot to check the substance. Begins with a "b" I think...
> About a dollar for a stalk, or bunch, or whatever.
> I don't like the stringyness to it so I cut it into 3" lengths and
> sometimes smear peanut butter of cheese wizz on it.
Wow, someone else who eats it with PB!
I use it a lot in soups and stews and chowders and so on.
> Of course its also chopped up in salads and in the homemade soups I
> make. Tell me more about the alfalfa thing.
> We frequently put alfalfa sprouts on sandwiches and in salads.
> Not much flavor to them but they bring some ruffage to the table.
> I could easily do without them if there is harm in them.
> Never heard of Pokeberry's, are the related to the Pokeman? :-)
Alfalfa - I have to check re: what the actual carconogenic substance is;
all I can recall is that cows can break it down digestively and/or
metabilically, people cannot.
Lessee... A quick Google:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22+alfalfa+%22
++carcinogen
I didn't go through all the sites, but from what I did see, there is a
lot of good info right at the top.
There are many ways to get roughage. Bean sprouts, whcih as far as I've
heard, have not yet been founf to be harmful. Try putting chunks ofr
apple, porages, and pineapple into salad. ((I don't do dressing - the
oil part is gross and I'm hypersensitive to the acetate ion, i.e. acetic
acid, so the vinegar part give me grief as well.))
Chick peas and all other legumes are good sources of soluble fiber.
Apples are great. Carrots are high in fiber. Whole unprocessed grains.
Onions.
Leafy dark green veggies of all sorts - raw spinach is a good one.
Ditch the alfalfa sprouts. They are a classic example of why you cannot
trust people who blither that "if it's natural, it's good for you". That
is one of the most assinine and ignorant statements going. Lots of
natural things will kill you if eaten, or at the very leat, make you
incredibly ill.
Oh yeah, pokeberry is a wild weedy shrub that most poeple don't notice
because it tends to inhabit abandoned lots and the like. It gets strings
i\of berries in the late summer and fall that turn purple. I think it's
strychnine that they contain - natural, but deadly. Birds can handle it,
humans can't. Other natural-but-deadly things include the Amanita
mushroom, the outer hust that protects cashew nuts (if you pick a wild
cashew and break the husk, and get any of the juice in your eyes, it'll
blind you), and teh skin of the Poison Dart Frog (contains curare, poss.
some other poisons as well). And let's not forget Fugu. And many
ornamental plants, such as Diffenbackia, contain high amounts of oxalic
acid, which forms into tiny crystals - if ingested, the crystals are
highly irritating to the moucous membranes and cause the mouth, tongue,
and so on to swell to the point of causing one to suffocate.
Then there are the herbs. People run around blithering about how any and
all "herbal teas" are "natural" and therefore "healthful" - pure idiocy.
Many herbs *do* have known and proven pharmocological effects, and more
than a few of those are either outrightly detrimental, or can be
detrimental in combination with other things. *NEVER* just take
someone's word for it that this or that "natural" product is
"healthful" - alqways do thorough research. Especially since herbs are
not controlled - the only requirement is that labels not make medical
claims. There is no requirement for potential side-effects to be listed.
HTH...
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