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Re: Supreme Court Overturns Constitution Edgar 06-14-2007
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Posted by Edgar on June 15, 2007, 10:42 am
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The only thing I was thinking of in High School, was how I can get
>>>>> into some girls pants, and how fun it would be to be able to draw as a
>>>>> job (i.e. Architecture).
>>>>
>>>> You probably had a nice life, with lots of support. I was living alone
>>>> at 16, reading the existentialists and Freudo-Marxists in high school.
>>>> My point about being infantile was not a condemnation of the kid and
>>>> his youth, per se. A lot of libertarian stuff strikes me as infantile,
>>>> and hypocritically self-serving. They're usually well-positioned
>>>> 'haves' arguing against sharing with disadvantaged 'have nots'. Not
>>>> pretty.
>>>>
>>>> The kid is probably parrot a significant older person.
>>>
>>>
>>> Everytime you post it reminds me of that old Daffy Duck cartoon, "Oh no
>>> you don't its MY treasure, its mine, Mine, MINE!!!" LOL
>>>
>>> He's sucking up to you Edgar, I'm sure you're aware of it too, just like
>>> everybody else is.
>>> That Michaels a piece of work isn't he?
>>> Cowardly, and childishly transparent.
>>>
>>
>> It's called having a discussion without resorting to bashing the other
>> guy, and possibly learning something from it. You should try it some
>> time. You may have had a hard life, but not everyone sucks, not everyone
>> is out to get you. The world does not revolve around you...get that
>> through your skull. Everyone has their problems, not just you.
>
> Actually, as Michael claims, my life was very easy.
> Notice how he is too cowardly to address me directly but uses other
> people, like you for example, as a sockpuppet to tell me something.
> Specifically, he is using YOU to bash ME, and you apparently are naive to
> it, as you said above.
> Its laughable really, not you, but Michael. LOL
>

LOL...there it is...me, me, me, me. I'm sure you realize he plonked you
long ago.

--
Edgar



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Posted by Edgar on June 14, 2007, 8:43 pm
>
>> The only thing I was thinking of in High School, was how I can get into
>> some girls pants, and how fun it would be to be able to draw as a job
>> (i.e. Architecture).
>
> You probably had a nice life, with lots of support. I was living alone at
> 16, reading the existentialists and Freudo-Marxists in high school. My
> point about being infantile was not a condemnation of the kid and his
> youth, per se. A lot of libertarian stuff strikes me as infantile, and
> hypocritically self-serving. They're usually well-positioned 'haves'
> arguing against sharing with disadvantaged 'have nots'. Not pretty.
>
> The kid is probably parrot a significant older person.
>

You are correct, I was fully supported as a child, I thank the stars and
everything that exists for my parents. I know not everyone has had what I
had. I try to repay in some small way what I have been given, by my parents
coming here illegally, by my dad being the strict person he was that led me
to not understand not to sway even a little from what I want, by my mom
always being there for me, and by all the people along the way that helped
me.

How did you end up being alone at that age? It must have been hard, I could
not imagine it being different for me.

As for libertarianism, your right, but pretty much the whole of the entire
human race is an infant in it's growing stages, thinking it knows what's
right. It's funny in Don's reply he accuses you of doing the exact same
thing you accuse of him. We can't all be right I think. It may seem like
your right in some ways, he could be coming from what his dad taught him, or
someone he admires. He may just be really interested in the stuff. At
least he is young enough not to know better. Others, I'm not so sure about.
The argument is always about how those who are getting help obviously don't
deserve it. It's always about those that take risks and win, but never
about those that took a risk and lost it all, and ended up in some gutter.
No libertarian talks about that, and it's probably safe to say a libertarian
in such a position quickly changed his mind. Maybe only to change it back
when he felt comfortable again. Like I said, there are no truths, just the
full spectrum of ideas.

I wanted before to post with regards to Pascal's Wager before, but instead
considering the opposite. If we take the opposite view, we can posit that
it's almost plainly obvious that the whole religious thing has been made in
order to control man, and the truth could possibly be that there is nothing
after life. It can be then concluded that why not live this life to feel
and see everything it has to offer, whether it be amoral to society or not.
It seems to me, the serial killers of this world are not to far off in
insanity from some of the Christians of this world. I've never liked
extremes, always down the middle path, and it seems lately it is the path
less traveled.

--
Edgar



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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on June 14, 2007, 9:36 pm

>> You probably had a nice life, with lots of support. I was living alone at
>> 16, reading the existentialists and Freudo-Marxists in high school.
>
> You are correct, I was fully supported as a child, I thank the stars and
> everything that exists for my parents. I know not everyone has had what I
> had. I try to repay in some small way what I have been given, by my
> parents coming here illegally, by my dad being the strict person he was
> that led me to not understand not to sway even a little from what I want,
> by my mom always being there for me, and by all the people along the way
> that helped me.
>
> How did you end up being alone at that age? It must have been hard, I
> could not imagine it being different for me.

It wasn't pretty, and the preoccupations of a few decades (including the
existentialists) reflect that fact. That's why I assumed what I did about
your base. It sounds like you had shelter *at* home....I spent a bunch of
time trying to devise shelter *from* home. It's probably one of the things
that pulled me into architecture. All went well after I was on my own. The
jack-boot thugs gave me a (barely) livable allowance while I finished high
school ; ) Then later the gave me and loaned me money to go to university.
Those bastards! Now I happily pay my probably higher taxes, knowing that
we're all connected, and haven't stopped to think of the ROI they got by
investing in me, but it must be pretty good. In a word, I'm grateful to my
city, my province, and my country.

DOWN BY THE HENRY MOORE

Murray McLauchlin


I walked down to Kensington Market
Bought me a fish to fry
I went to the Silver Dollar
Looked a stranger in the eye
A friend of mine says
That he don't think this town's so out of sight
But he's got shades 'round his soul
And he thinks he's seen the light

Singin' don't you want to keep on moving
Don't you want to get undone
Don't you want to change from losing
Don't you want to have some fun
...



Posted by Edgar on June 15, 2007, 10:55 am
> "Michael Bulatovich"> wrote
>> Now I happily pay my probably higher taxes,
>
> Somebody hand me my boots.
> The real BIG ones, for DEEP wadin'.
>
> He *happily* pays his taxes, never cheats on his taxes and never lies
> about the cheating either.
> Then he gives the rest of what he owns to various poor slobs on the
> stroll.
>
> Stop it Michael, my ribz are hurtin', seriously man. LOL
>

Here's one that'll make you chickle some more. I've even voted to raise
taxes...GASP!

That one will keep him busy for a while.

--
Edgar



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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on June 15, 2007, 11:21 am

>> "Michael Bulatovich"> wrote
>>> Now I happily pay my probably higher taxes,
>>
>> Somebody hand me my boots.
>> The real BIG ones, for DEEP wadin'.
>>
>> He *happily* pays his taxes, never cheats on his taxes and never lies
>> about the cheating either.
>> Then he gives the rest of what he owns to various poor slobs on the
>> stroll.
>>
>> Stop it Michael, my ribz are hurtin', seriously man. LOL
>>
>
> Here's one that'll make you chickle some more. I've even voted to raise
> taxes...GASP!
>
> That one will keep him busy for a while.

The previous neo-conservative provincial government eliminated the program
that put me through high school, among other things, and then sent me a $200
check a few years back. The province (schools, hospitals, etc.) went to
$hit, the electorate bounced the rednecks, and I would definitely support
reinstituting the program, among others, and give them back the money.
There's a balancing act between the levels of taxation, the quality of life,
and the health of the economy. You can go too far in either direction.



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