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Re: The value of shopping local Amy Blankenship 11-11-2007
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Posted by Amy Blankenship on November 16, 2007, 10:32 pm


>> If you want to be flippant, disingenuous or cryptic, that's your
>> prerogative, and, again, seems along the lines of some of the values or
>> modus operandi of your very own pet-peeve of a government.
>>
>> Dictatorships and the like come and go, but their core values, attitudes
>> and styles remain.
>
>
> I have no idea what any of that means Richard.

Therein lies the problem.



Posted by Kris Krieger on November 21, 2007, 3:29 pm

>
>
>>> And what about her children? Have they been put in that situation
>>> because of THEIR choices?
>>
>> Other people's children are none of your business.
>
> They are unless I live in a fortress and never leave it.
>
>
>

More to the point, if someone is beating and otherwise abusing a dog or
cat, is it anyone's business? Is it anyone's business if, for example,
Michael Vick was running a dog-fighting ring? If so, why? THe dogs are
his property, after all.

If it is someone else's business, then why is it "nobody's business" if
someone is harming their children? I don't mean giving their kid a pop on
the butt once in a while; I mean beating with belts and sticks, neglecting,
keeping ignorant so as to try to maintain dominance, and so on.



Posted by Kris Krieger on November 28, 2007, 12:54 am

>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> And what about her children? Have they been put in that situation
>>>>> because of THEIR choices?
>>>>
>>>> Other people's children are none of your business.
>>>
>>> They are unless I live in a fortress and never leave it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> More to the point, if someone is beating and otherwise abusing a dog
>> or cat, is it anyone's business?
>
> How do you go from being bothered if someone sends their kid to public
> school to someone abusing a cat?
> Thats the same silliness canadian Mike made awhile back about nukes.

Establishment of parameters.

>
> There seems to be a problem in this country with people NOT minding
> their own business and it seems that is predicated largely by the
> inability to understand what the term means.
> whoa......
>

Well, I guess I just think that it's worthwhile to teach kids toread and
write. I know how hard it is to overcome parental resistance to
education, and how much of a good start good education can be (again, not
saying the source is, or has to be, the public warehouse). I personally
think that parents who block the development (including education) of a
child are committing abuse, a vie rooted in my personal experience,
because it *does* impinge upon so many areas of life.

Minding one's own business is fine, but to just leave kids to suffer the
consequences of parental shitheadedness is IMO at best hard-hearted, but
it also is short-sighted. To say much more, I'd have to go into the
reasons for my view, which reasons are largely (1) personal expereince,
and (2) observation of other people I've known. I really do not want to
get into all of that, for reasons that ought to be obvious, but suffice
it to say that I'm not merely making stuff up as I go along - when I say
that lack of education, or poor education, and parental neglect impact
not only the adults whom the children gorw up to be, but also the society
in which they live.


But it;s late right now and I'm too tired to continue ...gotta get some
ZZZs.




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