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Posted by Warm Worm on November 19, 2007, 9:24 pm
Don wrote:
>> Kris Krieger wrote:
>>>
>>> [ ... ]
>>>> ...I think it should be mandatory that the government pay each family
>>>> with a child or more, enough money to buy a sailboat and sail around
>>>> the world for a full year. ;)
>>>>
>>>> (Although I'm still half-serious:
>>>> http://www.bluewateradventures.ca/Special/school.htm
>>>> There are doubtless countless other similar programmes out there.)
>>>>
>>>> It is my contention that students need to be brought out into _the
>>>> open_, from beyond the four walls of academia and into the real world
>>>> of air, land and sea... and yes, maybe also markets and governments,
>>>> etc..
>>>> Field-trips to museums are not the real world.
>>>> A museum is yet another depository or institution.
>>>>
>>> I actualy think that is not such a bad idea. Sometimes I think I owuld
>>> love to teach (I'm sure none of you has ever suspected that I have a bit
>>> of apedantic nature <LOL!!>), but the whole "classroom" thing puts me
>>> off, because what I would like to pass on is my love of, and excitement
>>> about, the natural world, and how Science helps us uncover and understand
>>> it. The problem is that this is extremely difficult, excpet for very
>>> talented "natural-born" teachers, to communicate withing th econfines of
>>> a concrete room.
>>>
>>> The other problem is the strictures - I have a friend who is a teacher,
>>> and it seems that the *vast* majority of time is wasted upon adhering to
>>> this or that bureaucrat's pet dumbass "theory of education", and on
>>> teaching the kids to memorize the andwers of the dumbass "no child left
>>> behind" (talk about lack of truth in advertising...) Federal money
>>> acquisition forms.
>>>
>>> IMO, Nature is the best classroom, because it is constantly stimulating,
>>> and is the wellspring of a child's curiosity - which, in turn, is the
>>> cornerstone of a continuing desire to learn.
>> (Qualification: what follows is a hypothesis)
>>
>> Agreed, but also including government, industry and markets and so forth--
>> whatever's part of the world and beyond.
>>
>> 'Open-Door Education'.
>>
>> Education turned inside-out:
>>
>> *_INVERSITY_*
>>
>> If students are brought _way_ more beyond the classroom (and/or
>> reinventing what a "classroom" and "school" are and can be), then those
>> areas that they visit, study-- and, yes, even apprentice, co-op and work
>> in, etc., will also learn and teach-- and have more to answer for.
>> There will be more transparency by necessity.
>>
>> Currently, students seem hardly allowed to go anywhere. That's not
>> community or how close-knit, successful tribes worked, or anything else.
>> It's built-in ignorance, failures and disasters waiting-to-happen.
>> More eyes see more, even if they're still learning-- or maybe especially
>> so.
>>
>> If, as I've read this week here, education is supposed to prepare one for
>> the real world, then I think we're going about it the wrong way.
>>
>> I propose that the very act of seeding students throughout (which is where
>> they should rightfully be) could change our systems/world for the better--
>> government, industry, markets, education-- everything.
>>
>>> Hence, I do not teach, and have never sought to little piece of paper
>>> taht grants me permission to do so.
>> I'd be surprised if you needed a paper to teach in many contexts.
>> It might be just a question of getting it going, a la grass-roots.
>>
>> For example, rather that just setting up a garage only for himself, Don
>> could easily create a "one-room schoolhouse" for drafting and building.
>
> There are sides to Don that no one knows.
> Many sides.
Fair enough, and of course... I've already suggested, perhaps outright,
that I value your "online forum" side(s).
The many things you know that I don't is in part what brings me here--
architecture, building, ACAD, framing with balloons...
(joking with the last bit ;)
I love reading what you guys have to say in that area, even if I don't
always completely understand it.
Hopefully, our public sides, though, or the main sides others see, are
fair to our sides unseen, that what-is and who-is behind the scenes is
not somehow undermined or devalued, if only through the eyes of others.
If you feel you're not being read properly or fairly, perhaps it might
be a good time to consider avoiding some topics that you think might put
you in the mire... Not that that's necessarily a big deal if you can
handle it, or that we'll all invariably end up there from time to time! :)
> For the past 3 weeks I have been constructing 30 LARGE birdhouses for the
> local middle school students.
> They are made from mostly scrap lumber from my various construction projects
> but I have also expended some coin for materials as well.
> Like I said, they are large, about 18" each way and the art class is going
> to hold a contest amongst the 8th graders to come up with the most creative
> way to decorate them and then they will be auctioned off with the proceeds
> going back into that classroom.
> Art, and crafts are real big issues around here and long money is expended
> to that end and these kids are going to make a killing on this thing.
> I was happy to help them out.
> No, none of the students came into my workshop, yet, but they are deriving
> benefit from it none the less.
> The birdhouses wouldn't fit in my truck all in one fell swoop, it took 3
> trips to get all of them to the school..
> I assembled them and sprayed all of them white to create a unified blank
> canvas, if you will.
> People are quick to believe that a 1/16" wide facet that is exposed in a
> public format comprises an entire picture and if they are so shallow to do
> so than so be it, but I have no time for such silliness.
> I spent almost 16 hours today *helping* out on a habitat for humanity
> project that I have been involved with since august and it seems my small
> inventory of tools and expertise is extreme to the locals that have never
> even seen a nail gun. Back when I reworked their disfuntional *architect*
> designed plan and came up with a more comprehensive and value engineered
> plan and a gateway to expedite the materials delivery process to act like a
> conveyor between the workers and the application.
Very cool and commendable, and glad you shared it-- it's inspirational.
> You see, an iceburg is 2/3 invisible........
> There's plenty of other tricks in my bag and most will never be
> known..........and thats the way I prefer it..........
> Onward.
Hypothetically, an iceberg, brimming with clear pristine fresh ice, can
float by an industrial town and get its above-surface portion coated
with a thin brownish-gray film of industrial pollutants. ;)
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