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Posted by Warm Worm on November 15, 2007, 1:46 pm
Don wrote:
>>> Amy Blankenship wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have you looked at what countries that don't have publicly funded
>>>>>>>> educational systems are like?
>>>>>>> You're an expert at ignoring the obvious and unanswering
>>>>>>> questions....
>>>>>>> If you're such a fan of other countries why don't you live in one of
>>>>>>> them?
>>>>>>> ....perhaps the reality is too much to bear.
>>>>>> I wouldn't live in a country without a publicly funded educational
>>>>>> system. That was the point. However, I do feel sorry for you that you
>>>>>> can't look to other places for ideas.
>>>>> In fact Amy, I have looked to other places, and have assisted thousands
>>>>> of other people in this regard as well, so don't waste your time
>>>>> feeling sorry for me.
>>>> Then why do you belittle solutions from other countries (or simply
>>>> looking at other countries that don't implement sensible solutions as
>>>> examples of what failures we'd be if we didn't do that either)?
>>> I don't belittle solutions in other countries. But their systems aren't
>>> based on the same stupidity ours is. They don't assume that more
>>> money=better education. Here's a model I'd like to see followed:
>> I wasn't speaking to you, but to the person who posted that.
>>
>>> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20040416/ai_n11450489
>>>
>>> But you must understand that culturally, the Finns are different (I've
>>> lived there, I have Finnish relatives, I understand the culture). They
>>> don't spend nearly as much money as we do to educate our children. Why?
>>> The parents instill the idea that education is very important into their
>>> children. This idea is reinforced throughout society. It works because
>>> culturally, education is important, not because they spend money. And
>>> they mean it. We pretend to mean it. Until we really mean it, and not
>>> with money, we'll continue to have schools that turn out brain-dead
>>> idiots expecting the government to solve their problems.
>> You know, I find the most interesting thing in that article the fact that
>> so many Finns want to be teachers. I had a several day long conversation
>> with a colleague last week over something similar. He said that it is
>> best to learn something from a course, because you don't know what you
>> need to know until you take the course. I said it is best to learn on
>> your own, because if someone is teaching a technical subject, it is pretty
>> much a given that they don't know enough about it to be useful, since the
>> experts are out there doing it. If you're lucky the experts will blog
>> about it, but they are not sitting down and making up courses and they are
>> _certainly_ not taking time out to teach.
_Inversity_, folks.
"Get the kids out, bring the professionals in."
Don; how about conducting a drafting class at your place?
> Thats the long version of;
> Those that CAN, do, those that CAN'T, teach.
Some who teach are also doing other things, like research, and vice-versa.
Here's another expression: 'It takes a village to raise a child.'
> Teaching is the 2nd most common college degree these days.
> Right after journalism.
> About 5 years ago females passed males in number of degrees earned each
> year.
> 70% of people with degrees do NOT work under that degree.
Ya gotta luv statistix.
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