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Re: The value of shopping local Amy Blankenship 11-11-2007
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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on November 18, 2007, 7:15 pm

>
>> "Pat"> wrote
>>> I think that just as a government can lose a war; it can fail to
>>> fulfill other responsibilities. I wouldn't say we have exactly failed
>>> in our education system, but I'd say we could do a much, much better
>>> job.
>>
>> We?
>
> You've consistently disavowed any fellow feeling for the rest of the
> country, as well as any responsibility to other individuals in it. If you
> think that you have the resources to make it on your own outside the
> infrastructure generations of citizens of this country have spent
> generations building, don't let the door hit you in the back.

Plenty of *authentic* people vote with their feet when they dislike the
government the inherit. A close (white) friend of mine left South Africa in
the 60's as a young man because he couldn't stand the system there. Many of
my father's generation left eastern Europe before the iron curtain came down
and never saw their native lands, or families, ever again.

Others commit themselves to transforming their countries by political
engagement within their native lands. They get together with like-minded
people and try to remedy the flaws in their systems. Both these routes take
guts.

Maladjusted, self-centered misanthropes, surrounded by caches of Spam and
ammo, should consider their options and grow a pair. They won't of course,
neither will they take their happy meds, but "I Can Dream, Can't I?"
--


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Posted by Kris Krieger on November 21, 2007, 5:01 pm

>
>>
>>> "Pat"> wrote
>>>> I think that just as a government can lose a war; it can fail to
>>>> fulfill other responsibilities. I wouldn't say we have exactly
>>>> failed in our education system, but I'd say we could do a much,
>>>> much better job.
>>>
>>> We?
>>
>> You've consistently disavowed any fellow feeling for the rest of the
>> country, as well as any responsibility to other individuals in it.
>> If you think that you have the resources to make it on your own
>> outside the infrastructure generations of citizens of this country
>> have spent generations building, don't let the door hit you in the
>> back.
>
> Plenty of *authentic* people vote with their feet when they dislike
> the government the inherit. A close (white) friend of mine left South
> Africa in the 60's as a young man because he couldn't stand the system
> there. Many of my father's generation left eastern Europe before the
> iron curtain came down and never saw their native lands, or families,
> ever again.

Voting with one's feet... My sister moved to England, and then to
Australia (having married an Aussie), and has never looked back - she
loves it there.

>
> Others commit themselves to transforming their countries by political
> engagement within their native lands. They get together with
> like-minded people and try to remedy the flaws in their systems. Both
> these routes take guts.

Or even not necessarily political. I think that any positive action has
a ripple effect. As does any negative action. And whatever sort fo
ripples onemakes do tend to come back to one... SO as I see it, beingt
at least occasionally interested in others benefits my own self-interest
;)


>
> Maladjusted, self-centered misanthropes, surrounded by caches of Spam
> and ammo, should consider their options and grow a pair. They won't of
> course, neither will they take their happy meds, but "I Can Dream,
> Can't I?"


Posted by Amy Blankenship on November 18, 2007, 9:20 pm

>
>>
>>> "Pat"> wrote
>>>> I think that just as a government can lose a war; it can fail to
>>>> fulfill other responsibilities. I wouldn't say we have exactly failed
>>>> in our education system, but I'd say we could do a much, much better
>>>> job.
>>>
>>> We?
>>
>> You've consistently disavowed any fellow feeling for the rest of the
>> country,
>
> But of course.
> Why haven't you?
>
>> as well as any responsibility to other individuals in it.
>
> Whom I have responsibility to is none of your business, nosey ass.
>
> If you
>> think that you have the resources to make it on your own outside the
>> infrastructure generations of citizens of this country have spent
>> generations building, don't let the door hit you in the back.
>
> You haven't the first clue gurl.
> I create networks wherever I go.
> I deal with individuals, individually.
> I have a vast network of individuals in Florida and I'm creating one here
> in hoosierville.
> Don't even harp to me about citizens, community, or individuals, I wrote
> the book on it.
> I don't prescribe to your *down on your knees* notion of big gov't and
> would gladly kill anyone right on the spot that insisted so.
> You, Amy, are full of shit, and have alot of learning to do so quit
> wasting time in this group and get your ass out in the real world and
> learn how to live like a goddamned human being and get along with other
> people.
> And in the meantime let everyone else live their lives as they wish.
> Thank you.

Wow. Must have hit a nerve.



Posted by Amy Blankenship on November 18, 2007, 10:58 pm

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Pat"> wrote
>>>>>> I think that just as a government can lose a war; it can fail to
>>>>>> fulfill other responsibilities. I wouldn't say we have exactly
>>>>>> failed
>>>>>> in our education system, but I'd say we could do a much, much better
>>>>>> job.
>>>>>
>>>>> We?
>>>>
>>>> You've consistently disavowed any fellow feeling for the rest of the
>>>> country,
>>>
>>> But of course.
>>> Why haven't you?
>>>
>>>> as well as any responsibility to other individuals in it.
>>>
>>> Whom I have responsibility to is none of your business, nosey ass.
>>>
>>> If you
>>>> think that you have the resources to make it on your own outside the
>>>> infrastructure generations of citizens of this country have spent
>>>> generations building, don't let the door hit you in the back.
>>>
>>> You haven't the first clue gurl.
>>> I create networks wherever I go.
>>> I deal with individuals, individually.
>>> I have a vast network of individuals in Florida and I'm creating one
>>> here in hoosierville.
>>> Don't even harp to me about citizens, community, or individuals, I wrote
>>> the book on it.
>>> I don't prescribe to your *down on your knees* notion of big gov't and
>>> would gladly kill anyone right on the spot that insisted so.
>>> You, Amy, are full of shit, and have alot of learning to do so quit
>>> wasting time in this group and get your ass out in the real world and
>>> learn how to live like a goddamned human being and get along with other
>>> people.
>>> And in the meantime let everyone else live their lives as they wish.
>>> Thank you.
>>
>> Wow. Must have hit a nerve.
>
> If you only had nerves of your own.
> But you don't.

What? Can't handle the fact that I can have a reasoned discussion without
getting shrill? Didn't you know? People who _actually_ value independent
thought don't have to launch into that kind of attack when someone has a
contrary opinion. You say you value thinking for yourself, but you only
value the thoughts of people whose independent thoughts mirror your own.
News flash: that's exactly what you've been criticizing.

-Amy



Posted by Warm Worm on November 19, 2007, 9:38 pm
William wrote:
> On Nov 18, 8:20 pm, "Amy Blankenship"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> "Pat"> wrote
>>>>>> I think that just as a government can lose a war; it can fail to
>>>>>> fulfill other responsibilities. I wouldn't say we have exactly failed
>>>>>> in our education system, but I'd say we could do a much, much better
>>>>>> job.
>>>>> We?
>>>> You've consistently disavowed any fellow feeling for the rest of the
>>>> country,
>>> But of course.
>>> Why haven't you?
>>>> as well as any responsibility to other individuals in it.
>>> Whom I have responsibility to is none of your business, nosey ass.
>>> If you
>>>> think that you have the resources to make it on your own outside the
>>>> infrastructure generations of citizens of this country have spent
>>>> generations building, don't let the door hit you in the back.
>>> You haven't the first clue gurl.
>>> I create networks wherever I go.
>>> I deal with individuals, individually.
>>> I have a vast network of individuals in Florida and I'm creating one here
>>> in hoosierville.
>>> Don't even harp to me about citizens, community, or individuals, I wrote
>>> the book on it.
>
> Without citizens, community, or individuals before you then books
> themselves wouldn't exist, let alone yourself.

Makes me think of sci-fi films where one goes back to the past, and the
very act of going back changes who they are-- even rendering them
non-existent.

>>> I don't prescribe to your *down on your knees* notion of big gov't and
>>> would gladly kill anyone right on the spot that insisted so.
>>> You, Amy, are full of shit, and have alot of learning to do so quit
>>> wasting time in this group and get your ass out in the real world and
>>> learn how to live like a goddamned human being and get along with other
>>> people.
>>> And in the meantime let everyone else live their lives as they wish.
>>> Thank you.
>>
>> Wow. Must have hit a nerve.

Was that that shrill sound we heard up here?

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