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Posted by Kris Krieger on December 5, 2007, 1:32 am
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>>>>>>>>>>> "Kris Krieger"> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> agree with Pat that Education is a natural right, and that
>>>>>>>>>>>> this rightr is being denied students.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How is that education to be provided?
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>>>>>>>>>> That is thesis material - one could write hundreds of pages
>>>>>>>>>> about it.
>>>>>>>>>> Any method, however, woudl requir that poeple agree that (1)
>>>>>>>>>> education will be provided to all children, and (2) critical
>>>>>>>>>> thinking skills are as important
>>>>>>>>>> as basics like reading comprehension, also arithmetical
>>>>>>>>>> skills so that people can create and balance budgets for
>>>>>>>>>> themselves.
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>>>>>>>>>> Yes, taxes would probably be involved,
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>>>>>>>>> <shred>
>>>>>>>>> You can stop right there.
>>>>>>>>> THEFT is never an option.
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>>>>>>>> Taxes are not theft
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>>>>>> I love how you just nixed the rest of the qualifier.
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>>>>>> THat is intellectually dishonest.
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>>>>>>> XXXX
>>>>>>> Then there's nothing left to talk about on this topic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, given that you're going to simply ignore the actual premise
>>>>>> (which, in this case, was, "if a community votes as a whole to
>>>>>> achieve a specified goal").
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>>>>>>> 2 people don't get to decide whats best for the 3rd.
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>>>>>> THen the 3rd can leave the community.
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>>>>> What if 3 just blows the heads off 1 and 2 for being indecent
>>>>> assholes and gets on with living his own life?
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>>>> Now you're just being extreme. See my other post where I go a bit
>>>> mroe into the idea of communities.
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>>> Demanding that someone leave his property is not extreme?
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>> Hmm? I didn't demand that. I was asking why, if one did not wish to
>> be aprt of a community, one would wish to live within that community,
>> as opposed to leaving.
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> I'm opposed to the *mandatory* part of this thread.
> As with most things I want to have a choice in any and everything I
> do. No one gets to demand anything from me and in return I will not
> demand anything from anyone else.
> That was a very major part of my drastic cross country move and
> cultural shock of moving to a rural area.
> There are some things about this community that really irritate the
> shit outta me but there are more things that I really like, so I'll
> stay for awhile.
> Thats how it was at our last house in FL which I'll remind you
> required almost everything we could summons financially, emotionally
> and physically to achieve but in just 4 short years the situations
> slowly did a 180 to where by the time we left there were more things I
> didn't like about that community than what I did.
> So we moved.
Yeah, it's bizarre when you move to what seems ike the middle of nowhere,
and then, WHammo!, some developer comes in, and next thing you know,
you're hemmed in on all sides and have HOA ruleboks being thrown at you.
> As long as I can have friends and be friendly, do as I wish and see
> others do likewise and associate as I please I will most likely get
> along with everyone I encounter and in the past 18 months or so thats
> exactly how its been.
> Check this out, just 2 months ago I encountered my very first rude
> person around here.
> I was at the post office putting a bunch of bills one at a time in the
> slot and a guy came up and barged in a put his letter in the slot
> before I was done.
> The nerve of that guy!!!! LOL
> I'm serious man, everyone around here is so nice all the time that a
> non-incident like I just described jumped right out at me.
That's how you know ya got it good ;)
I've pretty much lost my tolerance for rudeness. It's just
*unnecessary*, also it's a waste of energy, because it takes far more
energy to be all POed at the world and frown and be rude, than it takes
to just be a bit Zen and treat people with basic civility.
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>>> At 10:30 last night Muff across the road decided to fire up his old
>>> tractor without a muffler and go grab some hay rolls to feed his
>>> horses<---quite disturbing at that hour.
>>> If I would have went over there and told him to LEAVE I would have
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