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Re: The value of shopping local Kris Krieger 11-15-2007
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Posted by George Conklin on November 25, 2007, 8:41 am

>
> >
> >
> >> Health-care.
> >> Here's my 2 takes on it.
> >> 1) People should *pay* for what they want. Period.
> >> No insurance,
> >
> > This is nonsense because you need to pool risk and you cannot do this on
a
> > personal level.
>
> What risk?
> And why does it need to be pooled?
>

What the uninsured are doing is letting the public pay for the risk.
Your hospital bill is about 33% higher than it should be because you are
paying for those like YOU who don't bother to pay. Some people die without
needing any medical care, some need a little, and a few quite a bit. A
national pool is the only way to average out costs. If you get sick with a
private policy, they drop you.

> Further, with the AMA limiting doctors and choices to what
> > they want to provide, the individual has no choice at all, even to
> > purchase
> > drugs at will.
>
> My recent understanding, from an insider, is that doctors are limited in
> their practices by the cost of malpractice insurance

Overall the costs of insurance in the medical business is less than you
pay for your private life. It is not evenly distributed by area, however.



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Posted by george conklin on November 26, 2007, 7:46 am

>
>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Health-care.
>>> >> Here's my 2 takes on it.
>>> >> 1) People should *pay* for what they want. Period.
>>> >> No insurance,
>>> >
>>> > This is nonsense because you need to pool risk and you cannot do this
>>> > on
>> a
>>> > personal level.
>>>
>>> What risk?
>>> And why does it need to be pooled?
>>>
>>
>> What the uninsured are doing is letting the public pay for the risk.
>> Your hospital bill is about 33% higher than it should be because you are
>> paying for those like YOU who don't bother to pay.
>
> Last time I saw a doctor was in the late 80's and I paid him out of my own
> pocket.
> I went to a dentist 2 months ago and paid him in cash as well.
> I don't fit your model, and I believe your model is skewed.
>

No, you just think you are not a biological person who can get sick. At
some point you will, and then you will have to become a sponge and ask the
rest of us to pay for you.



Posted by george conklin on November 27, 2007, 8:04 am

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Health-care.
>>>>> >> Here's my 2 takes on it.
>>>>> >> 1) People should *pay* for what they want. Period.
>>>>> >> No insurance,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This is nonsense because you need to pool risk and you cannot do
>>>>> > this on
>>>> a
>>>>> > personal level.
>>>>>
>>>>> What risk?
>>>>> And why does it need to be pooled?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What the uninsured are doing is letting the public pay for the
>>>> risk.
>>>> Your hospital bill is about 33% higher than it should be because you
>>>> are
>>>> paying for those like YOU who don't bother to pay.
>>>
>>> Last time I saw a doctor was in the late 80's and I paid him out of my
>>> own pocket.
>>> I went to a dentist 2 months ago and paid him in cash as well.
>>> I don't fit your model, and I believe your model is skewed.
>>>
>>
>> No, you just think you are not a biological person who can get sick.
>> At some point you will, and then you will have to become a sponge and ask
>> the rest of us to pay for you.
>
> Where are you getting this stuff?
> I'll pay for anything I buy, just like I have always done.
> Are you projecting again?
> Have a guilty conscience?
>

I have always kept health insurance myself. But if you get into an
accident, by law you must be helped at the hospital to which they take you,
until you are stabilized, even if you cannot pay. The rest of us will pay
for you. It is added to our bills. If you get cancer, you can run up bills
in excess of $250,000 in a few months. But we the public come out ahead on
that one: they won't treat cancer unless you have the cash. I hope you do.
Of course, you could always try a free clinic, but then that would make you
a sponge also.



Posted by george conklin on November 27, 2007, 5:58 pm

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