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Re: Vinyl siding SNAFU. Kris Krieger 06-24-2008
---> Re: Vinyl siding SNAFU. creative1985@gm...06-27-2008
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Posted by Kris Krieger on June 24, 2008, 12:23 am
a380-bc8458acd445@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com:

> Wife and I completed a small 20x20 cottage,
> using 2x4's walls stuffed with fiber glass.
> The BC bc calls for the equivalent of 2x6 walls
> stuffed with fiber glass so we're upgrading the
> walls by applying 1.5" SM then covering that
> with simple white vinyl siding, that is most heat
> reflective.
> So wife goes to our local building supplier - who
> are really nice people - to get some plain old
> white vinyl siding, a no brainer, we thought.
>
> They only had a few 100 sq. ft in stock so she
> bought what they had, and we installed it in a
> jiffy, but they said we'll have more tomorrow.
>
> In goes wife to get more, of the same product
> code, however, it's 5" and the original stuff is
> 4". Apparently the store only stocks 5" as std,
> but we got 4", if you are confused that's good.
>
> So the next thing is the store had to place a
> special order of 4", deliver it to us and pick
> up the 5", which they did, all's well now.....
> I guess.
> Ken
>

Plain white? Well, *there* is the problem. Had you wanted Mocha Frost or
Peach Fizzle or Orange-Blossom Bubbles, in the faux Alligator Foot texture
or faux Silk Pajama texture or whatever, they'd have had piles of the
stuff. But Plain White? Oy Vey!!! You're lucky they still make it!

;)


Posted by creative1985@gmail.com on June 27, 2008, 11:53 am
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> > > a380-bc8458acd...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com:
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> > > > Wife and I completed a small 20x20 cottage,
> > > > using 2x4's walls stuffed with fiber glass.
> > > > The BC bc calls for the equivalent of 2x6 walls
> > > > stuffed with fiber glass so we're upgrading the
> > > > walls by applying 1.5" SM then covering that
> > > > with simple white vinyl siding, that is most heat
> > > > reflective.
> > > > So wife goes to our local building supplier - who
> > > > are really nice people - to get some plain old
> > > > white vinyl siding, a no brainer, we thought.
>
> > > > They only had a few 100 sq. ft in stock so she
> > > > bought what they had, and we installed it in a
> > > > jiffy, but they said we'll have more tomorrow.
>
> > > > In goes wife to get more, of the same product
> > > > code, however, it's 5" and the original stuff is
> > > > 4". Apparently the store only stocks 5" as std,
> > > > but we got 4", if you are confused that's good.
>
> > > > So the next thing is the store had to place a
> > > > special order of 4", deliver it to us and pick
> > > > up the 5", which they did, all's well now.....
> > > > I guess.
> > > > Ken
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> > > Plain white? =A0Well, *there* is the problem. =A0Had you wanted Mocha=
Frost or
> > > Peach Fizzle or Orange-Blossom Bubbles, in the faux Alligator Foot te=
xture
> > > or faux Silk Pajama texture or whatever, they'd have had piles of the
> > > stuff. =A0But Plain White? =A0Oy Vey!!! =A0You're lucky they still ma=
ke it!
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> > > ;)- Hide quoted text -
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> > My friend who just built a house used "plain white" with green
> > shutters. =A0He thought it was "classic" and "clean". =A0I think the
> > builder got a good price on it because no one else wanted it. =A0I thin=
k
> > it would be great for some homes, but not this one. =A0But I keep my
> > mouth shut.
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> The extra SM + plain white is the most energy
> efficient/economical combination we have.
> The a/c costs were too high - and unnecessary -
> with a brown building. The solar heat acquired
> from a dark colored building in the winter was low
> because the sun is quite low and we're shaded.
> The decision was pragmatic.
>
> As usual, appearance will be improved with the
> usual foliage.
> Ken- Hide quoted text -
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You did good, now make the roof either white or reflective and you'll
be starting to get a foothold on the thing.
When you mention 4" & 5" I hope you really mean DOUBLE 4 or 5.
That is, TWO laps per panel.
Run chalklines to keep everything level and true.

Posted by RicodJour on June 30, 2008, 11:17 pm
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> > Actually, if it's a flat roof he should plant his garden.
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> Done, I put 3 cubic yards of mud on my roof, but now
> I need a railing...to service my new garden safely.
> What I don't understand is I have 3/4 acre on regular
> ground, why couldn't I put my garden there ???

A green roof is great insulation year round. It's a nifty place to
hang out. Deer have a tough time leaping onto a roof to eat your
vegetables. You don't need additional reasons. You do need a strong
enough roof and you don't have one.

R

Posted by creative1985@gmail.com on July 1, 2008, 9:41 pm
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> > > > Actually, if it's a flat roof he should plant his garden.
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> > > Done, I put 3 cubic yards of mud on my roof, but now
> > > I need a railing...to service my new garden safely.
> > > What I don't understand is I have 3/4 acre on regular
> > > ground, why couldn't I put my garden there ???
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> > A green roof is great insulation year round. =A0It's a nifty place to
> > hang out. =A0Deer have a tough time leaping onto a roof to eat your
> > vegetables. =A0You don't need additional reasons. =A0You do need a stro=
ng
> > enough roof and you don't have one.
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> > R
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> IIRC, in cities, (not exactly there Ken's Kabin is), they use roof-
> gardens for to dissapate heat, clean the air, slow the run-off, etc.
> etc. =A0I think it's considered the ultimate in "green" roofing.- Hide qu=
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Thats a good idea for roofs that were designed and built as a floor.
If they are designed and built as a roof its probably not a good idea
to load it up with extra weight like dirt, plants, etc.
Also, I seem to recall working on largescale buildings with flatdeck
roofs and deep foam insulation and the whole thing was so fragile that
simply walking on it was prohibited and reinforced designated pathways
were designed into the scheme for stuff like maintenance, etc.

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