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Posted by Warm Worm on January 2, 2008, 3:19 pm
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>>
>>> If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times, I don't believe in
>>> gov't constructs.
>>
>> And yet it's also about business constructs.
>>
>>> I also believe ones property is theirs to do with as they please.
>>
>> -- Assuming it's theirs (to do with as they please), which of course it
>> really isn't.
>> It isn't in part because nature doesn't recognize artificial borders, and
>> ultimately, neither do I.
>
> Well, when nature steps right up and offers its verbal complaint I'll lend
> it an ear.
> Until then it has no right to my property.
It has every right and it's already there. Nature comes and goes as it
pleases.
And it feeds you, lodges you, reproduces you, and in the end, kills you...
How about that for rights, ay? ;)
>>> If you peruse the right places there seems to be more people upping
>>> stuff then there is downing it and with the slightest amount of
>>> intelligence there is little chance of the man getting ahold of your ass
>>> in the process.
>>> The people that waste their resources vesting in gov't means (copyright
>>> silliness) will ALWAYS be behind the eightball because they are dragging
>>> a weighted chain around their pencil thin nexx.
>>
>> If it weren't for gov't help/protection, many businesses would stop dead
>> in their tracks.
>
> I think you're giving gov't a little more credit than is due.
In that comment, I wasn't giving it credit-- quite the opposite.
> There will always be people (a business is a single, or collection of,
> individuals all deciding how to conduct themselves in the marketplace)
> that try to take advantage of others. The market provides the best
> platform for weeding out such people.
You might need some kind of system to uphold/maintain your market system
though... some kind of authority or government.
And at the hands of business, there might form private kingdoms or corporate
mono/oligo/polies to do their "tax-collecting" and various other dubious
activities... Oh wait, I think we already have that.
> All a gov't can do is jump on the scene, lay even more carnage and reap
> profit from the loss of others while summarily ignoring the victims
> losses.
I thought that we already agreed that not all governments are governments.
Maybe we should call them something else.
>>> I played the egg, fired up the screen cap, Ta-daaa....done deal.
>>
>> Good work!
>> 2007 was the year I learned bit torrent, and [ ;) ]
>
> Not having broadband prevents me from investigating bit torrent.
Ok.
> My concern though would be the same as with Emule, KaZaa and other well
> known peer to peer potential problems, that is, you can be tracked.
I doubt that being tracked is much of a concern at this point, but even
so...
And at any rate, the open source/libre music I have is enjoyed more than the
commercial fare, which is dying out on my system. I've also started watching
"libre" movies.
> Back in the day I downloaded massively from simple newsgroups using a
> dedicated server (NewsGuy or Supernews) and various freeware programs for
> unraveling the chaos and assimilating it into a recognizable format with
> complete anonimity.
> My current satellite has a continuous speedbump with horrendous penalties.
> If we exceed a very minimal throughput in any given hour our speed is
> reduced to about 1% of its potential.
> At that speed even email is out of the question, and they hold that
> suspension for 3 days to a week depending.
> Intolerable, but we have no other means of getting around it, now.
Oh well... Perhaps if you lived in a socialist state, you wouldn't have that
kind of market-problem. ;)
>> Hollywood often relies too much on the 'suspension of disbelief' for my
>> taste.
>> Maybe they'll start suspending some disbeliefs of their own with regard
>> to file-sharing and start making friends with their downloaders, rather
>> than enemies.
>
> You've heard of the new Rambo flik coming out this month haven't you?
> The 62 yo Stallone drags a walker around with him and his colostomy bag
> provides him with consistent maintenance issues from start to finish.
> In one scene he uses a soiled Depends garment to vertically asphixiate a
> hapless sap.
I hear that there's corrective surgery for some of what creates the need for
Depends in the first place.
IOW, one may not have to walk around in a soiled undergarment.
>> "The fundamental problem is that copyright pretends that information is
>> property"
>> - Ian Clarke, developer of Freenet
> I come in from the otherside.
> If I possess something it is mine and no one gets to say otherwise.
> If I give or sell it to you it is yours.
To be fair, in a sense, I agree; but in another, I don't.
It just depends.
You can purchase and walk around in a soiled undergarment and call the
problem 'managed', or actually go in and fix it. There may be less potential
profit in that, though.
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