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Posted by Info on January 29, 2009, 1:57 am
I'm the wheelchair-friendly bathroom remodel guy. Here's the initial "scope
of work" document I received from Tub Cove. This company is the
only contender because the others were too expensive too much rot. I don't
think they
wanted my business and Tub Cove has specialized exclusively in this work
for at least
twenty years.
http://www.geocities.com/haroldshamster/Scope_of_Work.xls I've been on project teams, coordinating work, but I have not been at the
front end "SOW" part before. What do you think ? I need a more specific
document and will ask for it.
On other concern I have is the contract. At a minimum, I need to make sure
he can restore the bathroom if a problem (I don't know how to put it)
crops up that makes the original plan unworkable. Suppose the wall
on the side of the tub gives way when he removes the tub? That will be
his obligation to fix, but I need to make sure I can make that stick. I
also
want a "not to exceed" amount in the contract.
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Posted by Ed Pawlowski on January 29, 2009, 5:55 am
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> I'm the wheelchair-friendly bathroom remodel guy. Here's the initial
> "scope
> of work" document I received from Tub Cove. This company is the
> only contender because the others were too expensive too much rot. I
> don't
> think they
> wanted my business and Tub Cove has specialized exclusively in this work
> for at least
> twenty years.
> http://www.geocities.com/haroldshamster/Scope_of_Work.xls
> I've been on project teams, coordinating work, but I have not been at the
> front end "SOW" part before. What do you think ? I need a more specific
> document and will ask for it.
> On other concern I have is the contract. At a minimum, I need to make
> sure
> he can restore the bathroom if a problem (I don't know how to put it)
> crops up that makes the original plan unworkable. Suppose the wall
> on the side of the tub gives way when he removes the tub? That will be
> his obligation to fix, but I need to make sure I can make that stick. I
> also
> want a "not to exceed" amount in the contract.
IMO, you are a PITA and I'd not want to work for you. It is really
impossible to give a "will not exceed" number when there is known rot and
some is hidden. He may give an astronomical number to cover his ass and
maybe scare you away. Same thing with the restoration. That can be pricey
too and he has to be paid for the work he does. You have concerns about one
wall collapsing. If that is true, he'll have to add in the price of
replacement to cover his potential liability for you rotting house.
When I had my own business, I'd walk away from some jobs. This would fall
into that category. Plenty of other good jobs out there.
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Posted by tbasc@bellsouth.net on January 29, 2009, 7:05 am
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> I'm the wheelchair-friendly bathroom remodel guy. =A0Here's the initial "=
scope
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> of work" document I received from Tub Cove. This company is the
> only contender because the others were too expensive too much rot. =A0I d=
on't
show/hide quoted text
> think they
> wanted my business and Tub Cove =A0has specialized exclusively in this wo=
> for at least
> twenty years.
> http://www.geocities.com/haroldshamster/Scope_of_Work.xls
> I've been on project teams, coordinating work, but I have not been at the
> front end "SOW" part before. What do you think ? =A0I need a more specifi=
> document and will ask for it.
> On other concern I have is the contract. =A0At a minimum, I need to make =
sure
show/hide quoted text
> he can restore the bathroom if a problem (I don't know how to put it)
> =A0crops up that makes the original plan unworkable. =A0Suppose the wall
> on the side of the tub gives way when he removes the tub? =A0That will be
> his obligation to fix, but I need to make sure I can make that stick. =A0=
> also
> want a "not to exceed" amount in the contract.
Mr. Pawlowski says about hidden problems is true.
One cannot place a cost on work one cannot see.
Your best protection is to ask recent clients about their experience.
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Posted by Don Phillipson on January 29, 2009, 1:20 pm
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> One other concern I have is the contract. At a minimum, I need to make
sure
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> he can restore the bathroom if a problem (I don't know how to put it)
> crops up that makes the original plan unworkable. Suppose the wall
> on the side of the tub gives way when he removes the tub? That will be
> his obligation to fix, but I need to make sure I can make that stick. I
> also want a "not to exceed" amount in the contract.
If you are both legally responsible (aged 21+ and solvent) you
can agree on whatever satisfies both parties, and if not you
can bargain until you reach agreement. This is what "negotiate"
means and the contract is merely the agreed record of what
both parties agreed. If you want more than the other party will
agree to, he will not take on your job. You cannot coerce him
to agree to everything you want and he cannot force you to
sign a contract that does not satisfy you.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
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Posted by KC on January 31, 2009, 2:03 am
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> I'm the wheelchair-friendly bathroom remodel guy. =A0Here's the initial "=
scope
show/hide quoted text
> of work" document I received from Tub Cove. This company is the
> only contender because the others were too expensive too much rot. =A0I d=
on't
show/hide quoted text
> think they
> wanted my business and Tub Cove =A0has specialized exclusively in this wo=
> for at least
> twenty years.
> http://www.geocities.com/haroldshamster/Scope_of_Work.xls
> I've been on project teams, coordinating work, but I have not been at the
> front end "SOW" part before. What do you think ? =A0I need a more specifi=
> document and will ask for it.
> On other concern I have is the contract. =A0At a minimum, I need to make =
sure
show/hide quoted text
> he can restore the bathroom if a problem (I don't know how to put it)
> =A0crops up that makes the original plan unworkable. =A0Suppose the wall
> on the side of the tub gives way when he removes the tub? =A0That will be
> his obligation to fix, but I need to make sure I can make that stick. =A0=
> also
> want a "not to exceed" amount in the contract.
Info,
Take what everyone says here with a grain of salt. I think the fact
that Tub Cove has been doing this kind of work for so long is your
best guarantee of success. You are not a pain in the ass just a
concerned buyer of these services. You don't want to make the process
more difficult or cumbersome than it has to be. Check references and
the Better Business Bureau for anything negative. Read the contract
carefully to see if your concerns are adequately adressed. Good luck
and I hope things turn out well for you.
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> "scope
> of work" document I received from Tub Cove. This company is the
> only contender because the others were too expensive too much rot. I
> don't
> think they
> wanted my business and Tub Cove has specialized exclusively in this work
> for at least
> twenty years.
> http://www.geocities.com/haroldshamster/Scope_of_Work.xls
> I've been on project teams, coordinating work, but I have not been at the
> front end "SOW" part before. What do you think ? I need a more specific
> document and will ask for it.
> On other concern I have is the contract. At a minimum, I need to make
> sure
> he can restore the bathroom if a problem (I don't know how to put it)
> crops up that makes the original plan unworkable. Suppose the wall
> on the side of the tub gives way when he removes the tub? That will be
> his obligation to fix, but I need to make sure I can make that stick. I
> also
> want a "not to exceed" amount in the contract.